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Title: Should Taylor Get Banned?
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Keith Houchen - February 25, 2008 03:57 PM (GMT)
i'm sure that we have all seen the horrific injury that Eduardo suffered against Brmingham :o

even though Wenger has taken back his original comment that Taylor "should never play football again", i would like your honest opinions on what you think should happen to him

was it simply a late challenge and a red card - nothing else- or do you think it should be taken further???

JTsBlueArmy - February 25, 2008 04:07 PM (GMT)
No, get a grip

Amanda - February 25, 2008 04:11 PM (GMT)
Keith

Welcome to the forum.

I don't think the challenge was in any way malicious and think the red card he received will suffice. Plus, of course him having to live with the fact that he may have - albeit not edeliberately - ended another players career.

But a couple of points from the game...

Gallas's behaviour!! WTF?! Should be stripped of the captaincy for that behaviour, more shocking that Taylors tackle...

mancred - February 25, 2008 04:15 PM (GMT)
No, its a mans game and a contact sport, accidents happen, does anyone actually think he went in with the intention of snapping someones leg in 3 places and dislocating his ankle? get a grip for fu.cks sake.

Accidents happen, I am sure taylor is very sorry for what happened and even wenger has said he doesnt think he should be banned move on with your life.

Paxton Sprout - February 25, 2008 04:26 PM (GMT)
When I heard it was a 'horrendous tackle' I expected the foul to be a lot worse. The outcome was about as bad as it gets but compared to some of the two-footed tackles that have recently taken place the actual foul didn't compare. I think Steven Kelly has a point about it not being a red card, that the ref was influenced mainly by the injury. That said it would have been a brave ref to not send Taylor off. Gallas would have cried all over Taylor and probably drowned him.

albiontilidie - February 25, 2008 04:28 PM (GMT)
i was expecting it to be a lot lot worse, roy keane wentout o injury alof halland and he didnt get banned for life, worst injury i have seen and can see why probably at the time wenger said itbut has now gone back on itl. taylor probs feels awful

LongtonLeeds - February 25, 2008 04:40 PM (GMT)
There was a thread on WACCOE our main forum about if anyone has injured someone playing football and some that had never played again due to how gutted they were about it. He was just too fast and you can see on the stills why it happened. Eduardos leg is planted in the ground and he gets caught on the shin, the force has to give in somewhere and it was his ankle....however horrific it looks in the stills it didnt seem to me one of those tackles

I was in the bar at leeds and they only showed the normal TV angle replay and i couldnt for the life of me see what was so bad about it. People saying 10 year bans are pathetic, it was just an awful accident in my book

Eighteen92 - February 25, 2008 04:58 PM (GMT)
It was just one of those mistimed challenges that you get in almost every game. Eduardo was just too quick for him. I had a hard time trying to convince a couple of mates that it was an accident. They reckon he did it on purpose. :huh:

BWA_Ultra - February 25, 2008 05:03 PM (GMT)
Red card was fair, it was just late

Longhurst JR - February 25, 2008 05:06 PM (GMT)
Echo what everyone else has said.

Keith Houchen!! Scored the penalty that knocked Arse out cup in one of the greatest giant killings of all time. Never gets a mention though.

yorkiebarkid - February 25, 2008 06:20 PM (GMT)
It didn't deserve a red at all it was a challenge done out of the best intentions.

Can't say I'm bothered to much either tbh, not because it's Arsenal or anything like that but because there will of been a fair few young lads up and down the country have career ending tackles on Saturday, along with any other saturday.

Lads on YTS who never get a second mention so can't say I'm all to fussed about the lad, unlucky but thats the game.

Reppz - February 25, 2008 06:22 PM (GMT)
Just seen it on ITV central news and apparently he is recieving alot of death threats from just about everwhere and some petition has had 36,000 signuatures calling for him to be banned with comments like "he shouldn't just be banned, he should be hanged"

IMO there is no way he should be banned. The fact that people are even thinking about it is beyond me..

gooner1 - February 25, 2008 06:25 PM (GMT)
Think a red card was fair enough but I can assure you that if Eboue had done it he'd be getting critiscism from all angles. Terrible injury and really hope we can win the league for him, hate to see that happen to ANY player.

gooner1 - February 25, 2008 06:28 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Reppz @ Feb 25 2008, 06:22 PM)
Just seen it on ITV central news and apparently he is recieving alot of death threats from just about everwhere and some petition has had 36,000 signuatures calling for him to be banned with comments like "he shouldn't just be banned, he should be hanged"

IMO there is no way he should be banned. The fact that people are even thinking about it is beyond me..

That's just the press spouting there normal rubbish, the so called 'death threats' were just comments on youtube saying 'Taylor go die' hardly death threats and most likly by a teenager. Press really are lazy sometimes and must try harder.

yorkiebarkid - February 25, 2008 06:31 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (gooner1 @ Feb 25 2008, 06:25 PM)
Think a red card was fair enough but I can assure you that if Eboue had done it he'd be getting critiscism from all angles. Terrible injury and really hope we can win the league for him, hate to see that happen to ANY player.

Theres a differnece though is there not?

Taylor - Tackle gone wrong

Eboue - Deliberate

gooner1 - February 25, 2008 06:35 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (yorkiebarkid @ Feb 25 2008, 06:31 PM)
QUOTE (gooner1 @ Feb 25 2008, 06:25 PM)
Think a red card was fair enough but I can assure you that if Eboue had done it he'd be getting critiscism from all angles. Terrible injury and really hope we can win the league for him, hate to see that happen to ANY player.

Theres a differnece though is there not?

Taylor - Tackle gone wrong

Eboue - Deliberate

That's not my point, if Eboue had comitted the EXACT same tackle everyone would have reacted completly different and infact half the Arsenal players would have got the same. Could you imagine if Rooney would have got his leg broken like that by Eboue by the exact same tackle, there would be uproar. Just the way it is.

yorkiebarkid - February 25, 2008 06:39 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (gooner1 @ Feb 25 2008, 06:35 PM)
QUOTE (yorkiebarkid @ Feb 25 2008, 06:31 PM)
QUOTE (gooner1 @ Feb 25 2008, 06:25 PM)
Think a red card was fair enough but I can assure you that if Eboue had done it he'd be getting critiscism from all angles. Terrible injury and really hope we can win the league for him, hate to see that happen to ANY player.

Theres a differnece though is there not?

Taylor - Tackle gone wrong

Eboue - Deliberate

That's not my point, if Eboue had comitted the EXACT same tackle everyone would have reacted completly different and infact half the Arsenal players would have got the same. Could you imagine if Rooney would have got his leg broken like that by Eboue by the exact same tackle, there would be uproar. Just the way it is.

You have a point, media and mass public opinon and all that. But you could say the same about any player in the same situation -they'd all get the same tratment by the various mongs in the world.

In the heat of the moment you'd want to rip anybodies head off who was invloved in such a tackle if you had some kind of connection to it.

However after the dust has settled personally I'd come to the same conclusion regardless of who was the offending player - unlucky tackle.

gooner1 - February 25, 2008 06:42 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (yorkiebarkid @ Feb 25 2008, 06:39 PM)
QUOTE (gooner1 @ Feb 25 2008, 06:35 PM)
QUOTE (yorkiebarkid @ Feb 25 2008, 06:31 PM)
QUOTE (gooner1 @ Feb 25 2008, 06:25 PM)
Think a red card was fair enough but I can assure you that if Eboue had done it he'd be getting critiscism from all angles. Terrible injury and really hope we can win the league for him, hate to see that happen to ANY player.

Theres a differnece though is there not?

Taylor - Tackle gone wrong

Eboue - Deliberate

That's not my point, if Eboue had comitted the EXACT same tackle everyone would have reacted completly different and infact half the Arsenal players would have got the same. Could you imagine if Rooney would have got his leg broken like that by Eboue by the exact same tackle, there would be uproar. Just the way it is.

You have a point, media and mass public opinon and all that. But you could say the same about any player in the same situation -they'd all get the same tratment by the various mongs in the world.

In the heat of the moment you'd want to rip anybodies head off who was invloved in such a tackle if you had some kind of connection to it.

However after the dust has settled personally I'd come to the same conclusion regardless of who was the offending player - unlucky tackle.

Agree completly with that, as Wenger did after his outburst. Anyway it's been a right tench week for us. <_<

marvin - February 25, 2008 07:42 PM (GMT)
the most shocking part about this whole affair is that whinger admitted he was wrong!?! :o surely this is a first!

hibs1875 - February 25, 2008 08:26 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (mancred @ Feb 25 2008, 04:15 PM)
No, its a mans game and a contact sport, accidents happen, does anyone actually think he went in with the intention of snapping someones leg in 3 places and dislocating his ankle? get a grip for fu.cks sake.

Accidents happen, I am sure taylor is very sorry for what happened and even wenger has said he doesnt think he should be banned move on with your life.

Nail on the head.



Purely accidental. He could've made the same tackle and the player would get up. Wengers a complete kunt for coming out with that nonsense about Taylor, even though he retracted his comment.

Talking about Arsenal Birmingham, what about Gallas at the end..? Greetin' face immature losing twat :D

Utd 90210 - February 25, 2008 11:17 PM (GMT)
Don't think Taylor should be banned - it was an accident in my opinion.

Wenger's comments after the game were a disgrace. He had over 2 hours from the time of the tackle to the time of the interview to get his head together and if he still wasn't in the right state of mind he should have turned down doing the interview. I think the retraction of his comments were more the work of Arsenal FC than himself. I'm not saying he or Arsenal had no right to be upset about Eduardo but i did find it a bit rich him saying Taylor should be banned for life for a one footed grounded tackle (albeit with very unfortunate consequences) when Gallas made a worse two footed lunge through the air at Nani the other week (luckily Nani escaped serious injury) and there was no talk of life bannings then..


Have to say Clichy and Gallas had me in stitches!

Longhurst JR - February 26, 2008 01:15 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Utd 90210 @ Feb 25 2008, 11:17 PM)
Have to say Clichy and Gallas had me in stitches!

Not me, would have won 200 quid off 2 pound stake otherwise. IT WASNT EVEN A troutING PENALTY.

Keith Houchen - February 26, 2008 03:35 PM (GMT)
please don't get the wrong idea of what i said
i didn't say that he should be banned i said does anybody think he should be banned :huh:

i agree with everybody else, red card and the guilt he must be feeling about having literally snapper eduardo's leg must be enough punishment to live with

i do actually like arsenal, if i had to pick a team to support in the prem it would be arsenal, i like the football they play

could someone clarify when Gallas had to be stopped by the 4th official was he going for Alex Mcleish?????

and yes his pen against arsenal was good uswell, however scoring a diving header of that brilliance in the F.A cup final is surely unbeatable!!!

Reppz - February 26, 2008 04:03 PM (GMT)
Nah i think he was kicking the advertising boards in, not alex mcleish, LOL!

SLIM - February 26, 2008 04:12 PM (GMT)
I cannot believe how many people are saying it wasnt a red card.

Too many people falling for the media 'Taylor victim' stories, and thinking ahh he didnt mean it, so its not a red card.

I dont think he meant it personally and am glad Wenger retracted his statements as he clearly was stil emotional about the whole thing, but at the end of the day it was a late challenge studs showing, half way up his leg, that = a red card.

Just because you feel sorry for Taylor doesnt make it any different.

Longhurst JR - February 26, 2008 04:19 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Keith Houchen @ Feb 26 2008, 03:35 PM)

and yes his pen against arsenal was good uswell, however scoring a diving header of that brilliance in the F.A cup final is surely unbeatable!!!

FA Cup LEGEND. Tried to find the pen on youtube but not there, if anyone has ESPN the game is showed quite often. Looked absolutely mental, should have won by more too.

yorkiebarkid - February 26, 2008 04:53 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (SLIM @ Feb 26 2008, 04:12 PM)
but at the end of the day it was a late challenge studs showing, half way up his leg,

I'd argue at least 2 of the 3 points there

Gunner Mike - February 26, 2008 05:19 PM (GMT)
http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/02_0...MOS_468x278.jpg

Please tell me how u can argue that studs are not showing, and he's not half way up his shin

Even if edurado still had the ball he would of gone over it

jm26 - February 26, 2008 05:53 PM (GMT)
Saw on SSN the other day that Martin Taylor averages 1 yellow card every 40 odd games, and this was only the 2nd red card of his career. Not bad for a 6ft 4", 14 stone centre-half. I was watching the game, and was in shock when the red card was pulled out, as I thought it was just a clumsy challenge that was a bit late. That's exactly what it was. Once you go on to still images and slow motion, things really do look so much worse. It was an unfortunate accident.

And on Gallas, what a fruit cake he is. Meant to be the captain and he acts like an extremely odd child throwing a tantrum. What if Almunia saves the penalty? He's up the other end of the pitch...

Personally, I think he had the realisation that the title is staying exactly where it is... :D

SLIM - February 26, 2008 06:03 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (yorkiebarkid @ Feb 26 2008, 04:53 PM)
QUOTE (SLIM @ Feb 26 2008, 04:12 PM)
but at the end of the day it was a late challenge studs showing, half way up his leg,

I'd argue at least 2 of the 3 points there

Ok from that image it was half way up his shin, you cant argue against the studs showing, and if it was on time he would have won the ball.

at the end of the day that equals a red card.

I have nothing against him personally, just stating the facts here that people are ignoring because they feel sorry for him, same people will go on about ''its a man's game''..


yorkiebarkid - February 26, 2008 06:04 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Gunner Mike @ Feb 26 2008, 05:19 PM)
http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/02_0...MOS_468x278.jpg

Please tell me how u can argue that studs are not showing, and he's not half way up his shin

Even if edurado still had the ball he would of gone over it

Hmmm, upon looking at the challenge in real time again on you tube (ouch btw) I'd like to in true Wenger style alter my comment, it was a foolish tackle which deserved a booking.

I based my orginal judgement on a slow mo replay on motd, however it certainly was not a two footed lunge of a lunitic - more a big lump getting done

Gunner Mike - February 26, 2008 06:14 PM (GMT)
QUOTE
I based my orginal judgement on a slow mo replay on motd, however it certainly was not a two footed lunge of a lunitic - more a big lump getting done


I agree with you on that, and i don't believe there was anything malicious in the challenge. But people going on about how he averages a booking once a season is completely beside the point. It was a bad rash tackle and deserved a red card

smithy - February 26, 2008 09:11 PM (GMT)
I have seen tackles worse than that in the premiership and have got away with them.





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