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Title: Fao: Liverpool Supporters
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bhoy88 - January 25, 2008 01:19 PM (GMT)
I was just wondering the other day how Liverpool Supporters have taken the fact that they will most probably be moving into a new ground? Anfield is one of the most famous stadiums in the world especially The Kop and I couldn’t imagine Liverpool supporters leaving that stadium without a fight considering its history and all it’s seen and the like over the years. But all I have seen on the tele is Ex-Players saying it’s a great move its needed etc. But I haven't heard much of a fans perspective on the move.

I really find it bad that over the years so many cracking old grounds have been lost to be replaced with lifeless superbowls with the supporters a mile away from the pitch. And many a club with a decent atmosphere losing that atmosphere once they move. And I can’t see Liverpool’s support at home being the same on big nights at a new soulless ground. Thoughts please?




Steve - January 25, 2008 02:06 PM (GMT)
Not a Liverpool fan myself and the positives I can see from a 'real' fans point of view in an increase in capacity from 45,000 to 75,000. It seems this move is going to be building as near a replica as possible to Anfield but bigger - so a single tier Kop holding 18,000 rather than 11,000 for example. Also it being built on land next to Anfiled so its not an out of town retail park like Coventry. For me the day the terracing went football died generally anyway. The worst new ground I have been to is City of Mancs Stadium and best is probably Stadium of Light but it was not a patch on Ninain Park or London Road with the large covered teracing and cracking atmosphere

Reppz - January 25, 2008 08:53 PM (GMT)
I think the Cit of Manc stadium is starting to pick up now. Standing there seems to be quite common and the atmosphere has been decent, if not great, the times i've seen it on tele. Plus the stands aren't too far away from the pitch.


Danh1 - January 25, 2008 10:23 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Reppz @ Jan 25 2008, 08:53 PM)
I think the Cit of Manc stadium is starting to pick up now. Standing there seems to be quite common and the atmosphere has been decent, if not great, the times i've seen it on tele. Plus the stands aren't too far away from the pitch.

I disagree with the last bit about the stands.

Can't comment on the atmosphere as I wasn't there this year.

Rhino - January 25, 2008 11:31 PM (GMT)
I personally would rather stay at Anfield and look how the capacity could be increased.

The in thing though is to try and match the revenues of Arsenal and the Mancs and the only way to do that is a vast increase of corporate hospitality, which isn't possible at Anfield.

The fact that the new stadium is so close has taken a lot of heat out of the situation and the fact that the KOP is being maintained.

Will still be a sad day when Anfield finally closes its doors for the last time, but with these 2 cowboys in charge, who knows when that'll be ;)

nick the jack - January 26, 2008 01:43 PM (GMT)
The New Anfield looks like one of the better new stadiums potentially, and an increase in capacity is good. What is the capacity going to be, I've heard anything between 60k and 75k?

I do agree new stadiums lack character, old roofs to help the atmosphere, etc. But they do have a few positives: good view, fairly close to the pitch, roof over your head and higher capacity. So there are positives, just the fans have to make sure the 'new' fans dont rule it.

BHB - January 28, 2008 07:31 AM (GMT)
There was an "Anfield Forever" or "Anfield 4 Ever" campaign years ago, late 90's, when the plan to move was first announced. But it never really got off the ground.

A few fan groups did meet with the club at the time to discuss the move, and it was agreed to be essential as Anfield didn't have the capacity for more executive boxed or expansion etc. We'd just fall further behind. And the new ground should be built by now. The original plans were for us to be moving in by 2006. We've just fell further and further behind financially since then, probably resulting in the need for investment! The original costing was around £80m. Now we're looking at around £350m!

At those meetings, 2 sites were proposed. Either moving out of town in the south end of the city, and building the new ground in Speke. Or applying for Stanley Park. There was only one answer.

A major reason why there hasn't been serious opposition to a move is because we're only moving next door. It's literally backing right onto the current ground. Where the car park is now at the back of Anfield on Stanley Park - that's where the new ground will be.

So we can still drink in the same pubs, same matchday routine etc.

It should also open the doors for more local kids to be able to get into the ground. Demand for tickets won't be as great with the increased capacity. All good news. I also think a lot will call it a day when we move. A hell of a lot considering it.

As for making the new ground work - plans already in place for that.

With The Kop as it is now, it's been the same Season Ticket holders in the same seats since the seats went in in 1994. The lads that might have gone into them seats back then are now 15 years older. There's no fresh and enthusiastic blood coming in behind them that's needed to keep the atmosphere going.

When moving to the new ground, it's a fresh start, and absolutely vital that all those that want to be vocal can be accommodated together and give the new ground a chance of being a success. A case of learning from the mistakes others have made and making sure it doesn't happen to us.

The Kop holds 12,500 at the minute, the new one is planned for around 18,000. Vital we get the core of that stand allocated to the right people. Otherwise it'll just be another souless new ground. I can't see us letting that happen though.

nick the jack - January 28, 2008 09:46 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (BHB @ Jan 28 2008, 07:31 AM)
There was an "Anfield Forever" or "Anfield 4 Ever" campaign years ago, late 90's, when the plan to move was first announced. But it never really got off the ground.

A few fan groups did meet with the club at the time to discuss the move, and it was agreed to be essential as Anfield didn't have the capacity for more executive boxed or expansion etc. We'd just fall further behind. And the new ground should be built by now. The original plans were for us to be moving in by 2006. We've just fell further and further behind financially since then, probably resulting in the need for investment! The original costing was around £80m. Now we're looking at around £350m!

At those meetings, 2 sites were proposed. Either moving out of town in the south end of the city, and building the new ground in Speke. Or applying for Stanley Park. There was only one answer.

A major reason why there hasn't been serious opposition to a move is because we're only moving next door. It's literally backing right onto the current ground. Where the car park is now at the back of Anfield on Stanley Park - that's where the new ground will be.

So we can still drink in the same pubs, same matchday routine etc.

It should also open the doors for more local kids to be able to get into the ground. Demand for tickets won't be as great with the increased capacity. All good news. I also think a lot will call it a day when we move. A hell of a lot considering it.

As for making the new ground work - plans already in place for that.

With The Kop as it is now, it's been the same Season Ticket holders in the same seats since the seats went in in 1994. The lads that might have gone into them seats back then are now 15 years older. There's no fresh and enthusiastic blood coming in behind them that's needed to keep the atmosphere going.

When moving to the new ground, it's a fresh start, and absolutely vital that all those that want to be vocal can be accommodated together and give the new ground a chance of being a success. A case of learning from the mistakes others have made and making sure it doesn't happen to us.

The Kop holds 12,500 at the minute, the new one is planned for around 18,000. Vital we get the core of that stand allocated to the right people. Otherwise it'll just be another souless new ground. I can't see us letting that happen though.

Why I have a lot of respect for Liverpool, they stick together, and to their beliefs, even when I think they are going in the wrong direction (such as Benitez), they do fight their corner, and I'm confident their new stadium wont go the same way as Arsenal, where there is no character to the stadium.




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