Hi everyone,

Read on forums overseas they recommend filling large seams or gaps using Magic Sculpt or Aves apoxies. Anyone knows where I can get these locally?

I'm not sure if you can get them locally. Most of the forumers swear by Bondite. It's a 2-part putty that can be found at most hardware shops.

Just wondering if bondite can be used to "add features" on kits? Any reaction to styrene and resin if applied directly?

Bondite can be used on various things. It does not generate heat thus it will not react to styrene and resin.

It can be used to add or build anything that you can imagine, from bodykits to seatbelts, from sandbags to bodyparts. Some example below shows what bondite can be used for...

Bodykits.






Seatbelts (it can be rolled to much thinner than this)


Hope this explains it.

Wow ... that's good. But what abt the curing time? Do I need to add thinner or just water?

Bondite is a 2 part epoxy putty. You need to mix the 2 part for use. One of the part is call the hardener. The curing time depends on how much hardener you mix.

To be on the safe side, you should mix at a 50:50 ratio since more or less of the hardener will really effect the curing time and the texture of the epoxy.

You don't need to add thinner or water with it because the texture is like modeling clay and it is kneadable. You can smooth the surface by wetting your finger and shape it.

This is interesting. Does Bondite becomes harden and becomes unusable after being opened for use like modelling putty? I only get to use about 20% from the tube before the rest becomes harden or is there a way to keep the putty soft till the last squeeze?

As mentioned earlier, it is a 2-part epoxy and will only harden if the 2 parts are mixed together. It's different from those tube putty. This one is more like modelling clay.

It does not harden as long as it is not mixed together. It actually comes in two sticks, one is the resin/epoxy and the other is the hardener and both are wrapped in a thin plastic casing so it would not have any contact with one and the other.

I have used Bondite that has not been used for 5 years and it is still in good condition. Just the plastic covering it has yellowed and became brittle but the epoxy is still usable.

Ok, went to the hardware store and got me some bondite ... price .. only RM8.90 :blink: And here I am already spent almost RM300 to get magic sculpt (5 lb containers) :wacko: That's why I was asking if I could get this stuff locally

Tested magic sculpt last night on smaller projects and I was impressed. Blew away all those putties from Tamiya and milliputs miles high. And the best part is that it doesn't sink in when dry, and I could sand and drill through without it cracking.

Going to put bondite to the test tonight or tomorrow (see if wifey still want to go shopping later, if not .. yahoo, more time to experiment)

Thanks guys. Would love to put Aves to the test as well but that's going to be a while until I can find a shop that sells it or an online shop that ships to Malaysia

Update - found out Starship Modeller also sells Aves :D

Ok, new project for me here. I want to find out which product is better at what, so besides magic sculpt, bondite and aves apoxies, is there anything else anyone here uses to seal seams and gaps and maybe use as sculpt to make accessories) - criteria : must be styrene and resin friendly

If you can, we'll like to see some pictures of you experiments.:D

Filling gaps, some use super glues or simply stretched sprues. For sculpting, well.... baking soda? :D

Ok, seriously, another material you can look at is paper clay. It's partially soluble in water and the most importantly, it's damn light. Weight like nothing when it dries. It might not be ideal for gab filling, but will be nice for sculpting use. It's almost like clay and dries when it has contact with air. So... you'll have to becareful and be quick working on it. Keeping you hands wet (water lah) will be best working with it.

Another one would be wood putty you can get from Ace hardware. I use them to create diorama terrain, but never tried filling gaps with it and never tried contacting them with plastic when wet. The shelves of wood putty, wall filling material can make you pening..... until now, I don't know which is best use.

There are a few artistic shops in 1 utama, you can check them out. I'm sure they sell some good stuffs that we might not seen before. Long time i didn't go survey them.

Actually I plan to use all 3 on different subjects to see how well they fit modeller's needs. I can already say in terms of price and accessibility, bondite would be the best candidate. I will post some pictures later based on the following projects:

1. Magic Sculpt - Revell/Monogram Colonial Viper - kit bashing this kit to fit in a dual cockpit. Still considering on other re-fits provided I can get the accessories (landing gear already out of the question as the manufacturer, Millennia Models International, just announced they're closing shop due to the recession - unless I kit bash this one too but I need a diagram of the landing skits).

2. Bondite - ID4 Alien Attacker (not the fighter) - this kit is like hastily put together by the manufacturer to ride on the movie's success - lots of gaps, seams and uneven fits. Even the mold is :wacko:

3. Aves apoxy - (need to wait 6 - 10 days for its delivery) - not too sure what to use this one for but I'm eyeing the ERTL/AMT Airwolf where the kit is actually of a Bell 222. The interior is that of a passenger helicopter. Either that kit or the ID4 Alien fighter

I'm doing this because of my mega project, that is to fit in the accurization parts for the Monogram's Galactica kit (definitely a lot of butchering required). Only problem now is that I've already paid for the set but there's no news abt shipment yet from Avery Models :angry: I plan to do this up and name her the Pegasus while the TimeSlip resin kit will be Galactica

Will try to put some pictures on my progress at the Sci Fi WIP thread later

Some times these stuffs are difficult to compare apple to apple. They all have different pros and cons in different applications. Good to keep our eyes open. :blink:

Also, internet is a good option to search for any products. But it's always and definitely always better to choose products that you can get locally, if they are not rediculously high in price. You can touch it, feel it, smell it, ask about it, and take them home right after you pay. Purchasing thru internet always expose yourself to the risk of being con...... though I never really experience any ripped off case... yet.

I been looking around the stationary shops, hypermarts and hardware stores around my place in JB, none of them sells Bondite. The closest I found is Selley Knead It. I wonder if anyone of you tried it, if so, please let us all know the result.

Selley Knead It hardens very quickly. If you use it for quick filling, it may be alright but if you plan on shaping or sculpting, it's a no-no. It hardens within 5 minutes.

If looking for bondite, try not to look for them at those huge hardware shops in department stores. I find that the small shops along a row of shops has them (at least most of them) :P

Selley knead is ok for filling in small seams but you won't be able to control them if you're not careful. If overfill or the access flows down, you may need to let the darn thing dry out first before you can attempt to pick them out with your hobby knife and then sand it.

anyone tried using liquid paper to fill smal seams? anyone tried using correction tape for filling/masking? feedback?

:huh: I wouldn't dare try using any of these :D Better to stick with Tamiya putty

Anyone know which shop in Johor Bahru that I can get Bondite? I have been to more than a dozen places and mostly I get blank stares from them. Only two shops heard of Bondite but aren't stocking them. They said that I may not get it in Johor Bahru and suggest that I get it from Kuala Lumpur as it is not in demand here.

Would appreciate if somebody can let me know where to get in KL oso.... so that I won't get blank stares..... :blink:

Waffen... if you can't find in JB, perhaps I can mail some to you.... if I happen to find it.

There's a mention of KL locations in this thread - Bondite. One in Damansara Heights, the other in SS2.

Ok... Waffen, about how many you want? SS2 is near me. I can get additional and mail to you. I might be mailing the same day I buy them, so just tell me how many you want.

Flylice80,
Thanks for your offer of assistance. I would like to have three packs. Please advise me the cost including postage. Hope you are getting it for me at cost price?

Regards

Of course lah... don't see a reason y I wanna mark up. Most to most I'll round up the figure so that easy for u to bank in for me. I'll PM u.

Flylice80,
Once again thank you. I just SMS my Hp number to you. Hope you have Maybank account for me to bank to your account like most of the brothers and sisters(?) here.

Regards