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Title: Seek Advice On Windscreen Installation


rayloke - October 5, 2009 08:13 AM (GMT)
Hi guys, i m still new in car model building, and am currently building a Tamiya 1/24 Jaguar MKII, 1995 model.

Am having some problem with the windscreen. This is a pic of the instruction manual:

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I realise, unlike the newer kits, the installation of windscreen for this kit is kinda tricky. It has nothing to hold on to nor anything to guide you. It's like a hole where u just put the whole transparent part into the hole, and supposedly it'll fit nicely.

However, after hours of test fit, despite finding it hard to get the transparent part not falling off from the other side, i realise there's some fitting problem: one side it's too tight n another side, it's too loose (luckily just a small part):

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I was thinking of adding some sprue or small pla rod to hold or as guidance for final installation, but also i realise part of the car interior (front - dashboard) is actually touching the transparent part n leave no space to add anything at the bottom of the windscreen.

I know i m one who's been spoilt by Bandai n tamiya's high quality product :P and this is something i have no idea how to solve.

Kits, especially older ones, do have this kind of design: wonder how you guys, the experience modelers, do it? Hantam aje? or there is some tricks to make things easier (Easier here means easier assembly when paint n finishing have already done, lesser chance for making mistake).

Hope my English aint too hard to understand. Any advice is greatly appreciated. ^_^

Entau - October 5, 2009 09:00 AM (GMT)
ray, if me, i would usually do this way:

secure the windcreen position, then glue one side with super glue, once dry, remove masking tape and glue the other side, of course this only work if you got black window trim, so any frosting wont be visible ^_^
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or u can try this method first, before applying to the real kit, like cutting a clear plastic from CD, then do the frame using pla-plate, of coz take times lah :P

Bomber Vince - October 5, 2009 09:45 AM (GMT)
to prevent frosting, dip the clear parts in Future.

waffen_ss - October 5, 2009 10:27 AM (GMT)
Rayloke,
From what I see on the instruction sheet, seems that the fitting just goes in nicely without a hinge or space to glue the windscreen. Using cement or super glue will frost the clear parts and spoiling the looks. My method is to coat the edges of the clear parts with liberal amount of white glue and then fit it in. Don't worry about the initial looks as white glue will dry clear. If you are not happy with the fit, you can always remove it and try again until you get the desired fit.

Regards



rayloke - October 6, 2009 06:46 AM (GMT)
Entau: Thanks, unfortunately there isn't any window trim coz it's a 1960's car. From my understanding, the super glue method is basically a one-take pass or die kinda process. I think that will be my last resort :P Somehow i favor this, together with BV's tip about future. (Think will test white glue first, if not working, then super glue.....)

BV: Future wont be frosted by super glue meh? ok, that's something new i learn..... Thanks

waffen_ss: Thanks bro for the tip. White glue takes long to dry but i think it worth a try cause in the end, i can still peel it off if the result aint what i like. ^_^

Thanks guys.

Alpha7 - October 6, 2009 07:15 AM (GMT)
How about using Future as the glue. I have used it to glue PE parts and it's solid. Furthermore, it dries transparent.

As for the fit, if the opening is too small, you can try and file the transparent part to size.

Entau - October 6, 2009 07:56 AM (GMT)
no window trim, hmm, then try white glue first, since it can be clean, if its not strong enough then try future :lol:

i think the key is that you need to secure the window's position until the glue dried :P

rayloke - October 6, 2009 08:23 AM (GMT)
Alpha7: I have never used Future before so i do not know its holding power. I have used humbrol clear to glue transparent part before, on small parts it's ok. But for bid part like this, i afraid it might not be strong enough. Especiallyat the very end, i might need to apply a little force to clean up any grease accidently stick on the part.

Entau: yeah, will try white glue first, if find it too hard, then will go for super glue with a lot of wind around :P

druid_99 - October 6, 2009 08:37 AM (GMT)
I think all of the response given by the modelers here is good. It depends on how you decide to tackle it.

You can use superglue but it is risky because of the uncontrollable frosting. You can use white glue but I'm not sure it can hold the weight of the clear part. Future might be the better solution but it might take longer time for it to stick. Since future is thin enough, you can place the clear part and secure it with masking tape or blue tack, then dip a brush into the Future and put it on one side of the clear part, the capillary effect will ensure that the Future will go to all the places surrounding it.

In order to make the clear part fits perfectly, there is no other simpler way than to carefully file some of the parts off or sand it off bit by bit until you get the desired fit.

Hope this helps. :D

rayloke - October 6, 2009 12:14 PM (GMT)
ok definitely will try future. (Hehehe will borrow some from Kirin :P )

Guys, thanks so much for the advice!

ryoga - October 11, 2009 01:39 PM (GMT)
BTW, where can you get Future? I just spent like half a day at 1Utama (and the DIY shop) but can't find it

Alpha7 - October 11, 2009 01:45 PM (GMT)
You can find them only at ACE Hardware.

ryoga - October 11, 2009 05:49 PM (GMT)
:( Egads ... went wrong place :wacko:

Ok, tomorrow if got time will go to Mid Valley. I know there is an ACE hardware there

Thanks Alpha7




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