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just thought i create a new thread to separate the 2 build..
this will only show the Aggressor in its painting stages until it finishes..
Hope this is ok.. :wacko:

This will feature 2 jets from Nellis AFB of the 414th CTS

First i'll paint the one with Flogger Scheme...



Trying to do freehand camo la konon nyer...and the result is DISASTER..


Overspray everywhere...
so decided to mask the edges...


- note the edges i already masked... need to cover the color next..


- bottom not yet fully masked.. and note there are some miscalculated paint being sprayed on th wings...
its hard doing camo.. :D


will continue next time.. need to paint the dark green next..

C&C as normal.. :D

kuman

Lan,

For freehand camo, you need very low pressure to avoid overspray. Spray as closely as you can to the surface at 90 degree angle.

If your compressor don't have pressure regulator, then masking is the way to go.

Lan,
your paint seems very thick to me......

@Harman
- my compressor only can give me minimum of 15psi... not low enough :(
- i think masking is still the way to go for me... for now..

@LooCK
- is it? maybe after struggling to control the freehand camo i spray the paint too thick...
since going to same thing over and over again to control the camo edges..
- it does look thick to me as well now that you mentioned it... any way to recover from this other than paint strip? if no choice better to strip since its not finish yet..

- my paint mixture is of milk consistency..


thanks for the suggestion guys..keep them coming
will try to improve on it..


kuman

Huyo coklat cadbury plane :D

Pandangan patik:

1. Agree, looks like gun technique issue if u say your paint is thinned correctly. If 15 psi is your minimum, you can still get away with it with thin paint, tapi technique and angle of the gun kena betul....takpe, practice make perfect. Id use a very tiny opening and very close to the surface...and keep moving!

2. For this build, possible for a fine sanding to take off some of the thickness? Then continue and mask and spray? I think stripping the whole thing can be avoided.

3. Also, ko nyer masking tu....punya la nipis...sure to get overspray again....I hope you plan to mask off the rest? Youll get hard camo lines when I think it should be "blended", but nvm lah....use some wash and filter to kill down the lines later. Final clear coat will also help here to even out the colours.

4. BTW, maybe you can make your preshade more "kau" next time...otherwise it will just disappear under the next coat. From the way u spray the preshade lines is a sign u can improve the gun control technique.

5. Awat tak paint the u/c bay dulu, then close off with the u/c door with blue tack? Pastu spray exterior colour. Now u got overspray into the u/c bay and a tricky job to spray the white wihout touching the exterior. Those u/c leg also can be left off till last....

Great effort tho bro!

Lan,
you should try wet paper masking instead.
Just photostat the camo in A4, cut out, wet the paper and stick on the plane surface. Keep the paper moist so it will not fly off when you blast the airbrush.

I did the oscar that way.

I see the 3rd pic that you used blu tack to mask the edges, can cover the other areas where you dun want to spray with paper.

I think you should mask the landing gears area, it's gonna take more coats of white to cover the brown :lol:

thanks for the input guys... i'll try to see to it one by one.. :D
alot i need to digest... :lol:


@landyshah
- itu tak coated with green lagi tuh... kalau tak jadik ler cardbury with toppings... :D
- Pandangan tuan hamba sangat dialu-alukan..

1. still practising with handling the gun especially for making fine preshading lines... and agreed.. nampaknya nak kena thin lagi paint untuk pre-shade tuh.

2. since i'm open for suggestion, i'll try the fine sandiing with some 1500 grit sandpaper tonite... if that failed... i can always stripped the paint.. since celeron also noted my mistake on having the brown in the landing bay..
:blink:

3. ooo masking tu just untuk border... the plan is bahagian lain tu will be covered accordingly and will be based on the thin-sempadan tuh.. maybe i should opt to use rolled blu-tack instead then can get the soft-edge thus making it more "blend"

4. "kau" meaning more terang? i think i really need to make the pre-shade more thin next time... so that later on less paint layers will be needed to cover the preshade... else will need many layer of paint to make the pre-shade blend in.. right?

5. thats a big blunder by me... should have masked the u/c bay prior to painting... now i have a lot of brown in there... i usually would mask the landing gear and the bay prior to painting...


@celeron
- i didnt use any blu-tack, and i'm planning to cover the rest of the area to avoid overspray :)
- you're right... should have masked it... :wacko: :cry:

@LooCK
- another technique i need to test out...never knew about this style of masking by using wet paper.


- Thanks a lot of the tips guys... i'll try these tips first... if all failed i'll start using Windex to strip the paint.. since i think the mistakes and blunder is so devastating that a full paint stripped maybe imminent...

will update of my progress here..

thanks a lot guys... :rolleyes: and am still accepting suggestions of improvement..

kuman

Dear Kuman san,
You're getting there bro, with all the master "sifu" here "point and teach" you should be getting there in no time. Hopefully I will be right behind you, bro... :ph43r: :ph43r: :D

Regards!
TS. :D :lol: :D

Kuman san, this depend on the effect you want to achieve and your personal preference of the final effect. For me, I would make my preshading more darker/stronger ("kau"), easier to reduce the effect than increase it later

Also, this plane colours are quite dark overall (I dont know how dark is the green)....mungkin tenggelam kot effect preshade tu?

Anyway, I am going based on your photos jer, tengok ngan mata maybe different..

Bak kata orang tua: If it looks right to you, it is right :D

Mr K

One method I use for a hardline camo ....is stick double sided tape (the thin type) to the pattern............based on a scaled down drawing......like Mr Lck said.........and cut the shape on the paper and together the tape as well............then peal the tape stick down and you will have super hard lines with no overspray...............

But you must slacken the gum on the tape 1st.......then just roll it off with figure pressure.........after all dry............

As for preshading darker colours like your green, I would pile on the black a lot more........and thin the actual camo colour a bit more.........and build up.........can be done.......

HTH
Best
Mr B

@TS
- yea man... still got lots to learn and thanks to the guys for the pointers... :D

@landyshah
- aha.. i understand and there's a logic to what you're saying there. reducing is easier than increasing ..
- again like you said also, i also think that the dark green would cover most of the pre-shading effect... some of the pictures i saw the darkgreen indeed does not have or rather will not have visible "pre-shade" on them.
- its ok shah, i got an xtra pair of eyes... so i guess it should be ok next time (i hope)

Mr B
- aha.. another method for hardline.... last time i did try using the normal glue to glue the paper design but again with a bit disastrous result.. this is another method that i need to test out..
- will remember to slacken the glue as you suggest else will have another unwanter "paint chipping" effect on the plane... :D


UPDATES
- Last nite the plane went to the Paint stripping factory.. now she is ready for another round of preshading and painting....
- will try to get something done tonite.. wish me luck guys... :lol:

kuman

Hi Kuman,
Sorry to hear you had to strip the paint. Looking forward to seeing them done in the desert camo.

Hi Kuman,
How is the progress on the repaint? Waiting patiently to see the outcome.