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Title: In Progress: Wrecking The Bismarck


xamel1975 - April 24, 2009 12:47 AM (GMT)
I've always wanted to build the Bismarck wreck dio when I saw this picture in National Geographic magazine.

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It's a painting based on the photos captured during the expedition led by Robert Ballard to find the Bismarck wreck. This GB has given me the BIG nudge to kick this project off.

I use Academy's 1/350 Bismarck for this project because it's cheap (obviously!) and I won't feel 'rugi' as I'm going to 'wreck' it.

Bismarck lost her 4 main turret when she sank into the abyss.

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Some of the supertructure were totally destroyed during the battle.

So I started off using Dremel (not Naza!) rotary tool to grind off the turret base. Later, I'll need to create some details in these holes.

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Silantra - April 24, 2009 01:46 AM (GMT)
harman,
Caya la. Habis pecah la bismark ni.
So nanti display dlm akuarium ke or dlm air mcm fetus alien.

cptan - April 24, 2009 02:07 AM (GMT)
Daring attempt :o !!

Interesting to know how you do the painting of this wreckage.... suppose to besuper heavy weathering....

Once again, Tabik Spring!!

CPTan

beachbum - April 24, 2009 02:41 AM (GMT)
Its good to see this project coming to life. I know its been on your mind for some time and your brother as well since we had a topic about it way back in the Dio section.

This will definitely be a great project especially with teeny itsy bitsy Rover hovering above her. I think weathering of the hull will not be as tough as covering her in very fine marine silt and encrustations.

landyshah - April 24, 2009 03:13 AM (GMT)
Right on, bro. This will look wonderful bila jadi. Diorama in an aquarium?

azlandiver - April 24, 2009 03:30 AM (GMT)
tabik la lu harman......sure bismarck ni jadi tumpuan mata-mata kaki kapal nanti :D

xamel1975 - April 24, 2009 03:30 AM (GMT)
@ Shah,

Zaidi was refering to one of my previous build. My Queen Xenomorph fetus in jar.


@ CK

Agree that weathering might not be an issue. The recreation of encrustation on the wreck that I'm worry about. Have to do some experiment. To the Mad Lab! Not sure yet about having a rover hovering above it as I need to scratchbuild it. In 1/350 scale, it might be tough!


@ cptan

Thanks! Looking forward on your build too!


@ Zaidi

Isk... takkan la semua aku nak rendam kot :lol: ! Most likely I'll use stained perspex for the casing to simulate the underwater feel. Tu pun kalau nak buat casing la.


@ azlandiver

Thanks, bro.

multifilla - April 24, 2009 05:45 AM (GMT)
For encrustation would suggest using artificial snow when applied in between rust water atomised water spray with snow sprinkled on created random encrustation. The unusual feature of this snow is it does leave fine cellulose strands like algae weeds swirling with current (use a mini computer fan to generate movement) Why must all diaromas be so static. Even ghost ships have life!

Sample in showroom of this artificial snow diaroma to view.

Silantra - April 24, 2009 07:03 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (multifilla @ Apr 24 2009, 01:45 PM)
For encrustation would suggest using artificial snow when applied in between rust water atomised water spray with snow sprinkled on created random encrustation. The unusual feature of this snow is it does leave fine cellulose strands like algae weeds swirling with current (use a mini computer fan to generate movement) Why must all diaromas be so static. Even ghost ships have life!

Sample in showroom of this artificial snow diaroma to view.

Tauke Filla,

may i suggest you put photos on each of your comments... not all of us knows your product and not all of us have the luxury to visit your showroom...

perhaps a good quality photo will justify.... i would love to see the sample on this encrustation effect.......

my 0.2 sen

kuman - April 24, 2009 07:27 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Silantra @ Apr 24 2009, 03:03 PM)
QUOTE (multifilla @ Apr 24 2009, 01:45 PM)
For encrustation would suggest using artificial snow when applied in between rust water atomised  water spray with snow sprinkled on created random encrustation.  The unusual feature of this snow is it does leave fine cellulose strands like algae weeds swirling with current (use a mini computer fan to generate movement) Why must all diaromas be so static. Even ghost ships have life!

Sample in showroom of this artificial snow diaroma to view.

Tauke Filla,

may i suggest you put photos on each of your comments... not all of us knows your product and not all of us have the luxury to visit your showroom...

perhaps a good quality photo will justify.... i would love to see the sample on this encrustation effect.......

my 0.2 sen

sokong.. sokong.. :))

kuman

@harman
- buat la 1 rover 1/350 scale... and ada lampu dok suluh cam gambar ko tuh.. pergh..

azlandiver - April 24, 2009 07:41 AM (GMT)
kuman & silantra

dua-dua aku sokong hehehehhe :D

landyshah - April 24, 2009 07:44 AM (GMT)
QUOTE
Zaidi was refering to one of my previous build. My Queen Xenomorph fetus in jar.


Queen Xenomorph in Jar + Alien Dog

Aku rasa engko ni masa kecik nak jadi MAD SCIENTIST :D

hashaney - April 24, 2009 09:12 AM (GMT)
Kan dedolu banyak kartun2 anti-heronye MAD SCIENTIST... Mungkin adalah terkena ckit SIDE EFFECT dia skrg ni kot... :lol:

mej®

PS: Alah gurau senda ckit aje.... jangan marah, nanti kena juai....

xamel1975 - April 24, 2009 11:29 AM (GMT)
Mad Scientist, :lol: :lol: :lol:!

Agaknye la ada ambition tu. Tapi tak dpt jadi Mad Scientist; jadi Dr. Evil je. Siap ada Mini Me skali. Dapat 2 tahun lepas :lol: .

Siap anjing alien aku ni, aku nak buat Chestburster dlm surgery tray lak.

Bomber Vince - April 24, 2009 01:10 PM (GMT)
U R RELLY MAD!!! :o

multifilla - April 25, 2009 07:32 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (kuman @ Apr 24 2009, 03:27 PM)
QUOTE (Silantra @ Apr 24 2009, 03:03 PM)
QUOTE (multifilla @ Apr 24 2009, 01:45 PM)
For encrustation would suggest using artificial snow when applied in between rust water atomised  water spray with snow sprinkled on created random encrustation.  The unusual feature of this snow is it does leave fine cellulose strands like algae weeds swirling with current (use a mini computer fan to generate movement) Why must all diaromas be so static. Even ghost ships have life!

Sample in showroom of this artificial snow diaroma to view.

Tauke Filla,

may i suggest you put photos on each of your comments... not all of us knows your product and not all of us have the luxury to visit your showroom...

perhaps a good quality photo will justify.... i would love to see the sample on this encrustation effect.......

my 0.2 sen

sokong.. sokong.. :))

kuman

@harman
- buat la 1 rover 1/350 scale... and ada lampu dok suluh cam gambar ko tuh.. pergh..

Silantra, Kuman dan lain lain penyokong,

Easier said than done as having spent 30 min trying to micro picture encrustation unable to download to cpu and photobucket. Do need clear magnification as Bismark scale is 1/350

Imran had the privilege to view when he came to collect the prizes and this will be our secret. Harman mari lah jika abang nak simpan rahsia. Infact all invited.[QUOTE]

Silantra - April 25, 2009 01:00 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (multifilla @ Apr 25 2009, 03:32 PM)
QUOTE (kuman @ Apr 24 2009, 03:27 PM)
QUOTE (Silantra @ Apr 24 2009, 03:03 PM)
QUOTE (multifilla @ Apr 24 2009, 01:45 PM)
For encrustation would suggest using artificial snow when applied in between rust water atomised  water spray with snow sprinkled on created random encrustation.  The unusual feature of this snow is it does leave fine cellulose strands like algae weeds swirling with current (use a mini computer fan to generate movement) Why must all diaromas be so static. Even ghost ships have life!

Sample in showroom of this artificial snow diaroma to view.

Tauke Filla,

may i suggest you put photos on each of your comments... not all of us knows your product and not all of us have the luxury to visit your showroom...

perhaps a good quality photo will justify.... i would love to see the sample on this encrustation effect.......

my 0.2 sen

sokong.. sokong.. :))

kuman

@harman
- buat la 1 rover 1/350 scale... and ada lampu dok suluh cam gambar ko tuh.. pergh..

Silantra, Kuman dan lain lain penyokong,

Easier said than done as having spent 30 min trying to micro picture encrustation unable to download to cpu and photobucket. Do need clear magnification as Bismark scale is 1/350

Imran had the privilege to view when he came to collect the prizes and this will be our secret. Harman mari lah jika abang nak simpan rahsia. Infact all invited.[QUOTE]

taukefilla...this is unacceptable..drop and give me 20.... huhuhuhuh


multifilla - April 26, 2009 11:50 AM (GMT)
[QUOTE=Silantra,Apr 25 2009, 09:00 PM][QUOTE=multifilla,Apr 25 2009, 03:32 PM] [QUOTE=kuman,Apr 24 2009, 03:27 PM][QUOTE=Silantra,Apr 24 2009, 03:03 PM] [QUOTE=multifilla,Apr 24 2009, 01:45 PM] For encrustation would suggest using artificial snow when applied in between rust water atomised  water spray with snow sprinkled on created random encrustation.  The unusual feature of this snow is it does leave fine cellulose strands like algae weeds swirling with current (use a mini computer fan to generate movement) Why must all diaromas be so static. Even ghost ships have life!

Sample in showroom of this artificial snow diaroma to view. [/QUOTE]
Tauke Filla,

may i suggest you put photos on each of your comments... not all of us knows your product and not all of us have the luxury to visit your showroom...

perhaps a good quality photo will justify.... i would love to see the sample on this encrustation effect.......

my 0.2 sen [/QUOTE]
sokong.. sokong.. :))

kuman

@harman
- buat la 1 rover 1/350 scale... and ada lampu dok suluh cam gambar ko tuh.. pergh..[/QUOTE]
Silantra, Kuman dan lain lain penyokong,

Easier said than done as having spent 30 min trying to micro picture encrustation unable to download to cpu and photobucket. Do need clear magnification as Bismark scale is 1/350

Imran had the privilege to view when he came to collect the prizes and this will be our secret. Harman mari lah jika abang nak simpan rahsia. Infact all invited.[QUOTE] [/QUOTE]
taukefilla...this is unacceptable..drop and give me 20.... huhuhuhuh[/QUOTE]
Repeating all invited except Silantra who wants me to give him 20.00 Hahaha

Being cellulose the artificial snow builds up where there is moisture so you can random build crustation with the coral like holes. Rest is air brushing. For the silt you can use colloidal silica which absorbs water color for mud color. Bind the silica with matt sealer or diluted H20 varnish.

See easier to describe procedure than photobucket.

Silantra - April 26, 2009 02:28 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (multifilla @ Apr 26 2009, 07:50 PM)
[QUOTE=Silantra,Apr 25 2009, 09:00 PM][QUOTE=multifilla,Apr 25 2009, 03:32 PM] [QUOTE=kuman,Apr 24 2009, 03:27 PM][QUOTE=Silantra,Apr 24 2009, 03:03 PM] [QUOTE=multifilla,Apr 24 2009, 01:45 PM] For encrustation would suggest using artificial snow when applied in between rust water atomised  water spray with snow sprinkled on created random encrustation.  The unusual feature of this snow is it does leave fine cellulose strands like algae weeds swirling with current (use a mini computer fan to generate movement) Why must all diaromas be so static. Even ghost ships have life!

Sample in showroom of this artificial snow diaroma to view. [/QUOTE]
Tauke Filla,

may i suggest you put photos on each of your comments... not all of us knows your product and not all of us have the luxury to visit your showroom...

perhaps a good quality photo will justify.... i would love to see the sample on this encrustation effect.......

my 0.2 sen [/QUOTE]
sokong.. sokong.. :))

kuman

@harman
- buat la 1 rover 1/350 scale... and ada lampu dok suluh cam gambar ko tuh.. pergh..[/QUOTE]
Silantra, Kuman dan lain lain penyokong,

Easier said than done as having spent 30 min trying to micro picture encrustation unable to download to cpu and photobucket. Do need clear magnification as Bismark scale is 1/350

Imran had the privilege to view when he came to collect the prizes and this will be our secret. Harman mari lah jika abang nak simpan rahsia. Infact all invited.[QUOTE] [/QUOTE]
taukefilla...this is unacceptable..drop and give me 20.... huhuhuhuh[/QUOTE]
Repeating all invited except Silantra who wants me to give him 20.00 Hahaha

Being cellulose the artificial snow builds up where there is moisture so you can random build crustation with the coral like holes. Rest is air brushing. For the silt you can use colloidal silica which absorbs water color for mud color. Bind the silica with matt sealer or diluted H20 varnish.

See easier to describe procedure than photobucket.

tauke, stil unacceptable!
Now gimme 50!
Ever heard that picture tells thousand than words?

Ps: harman sori hijack thread nko

xamel1975 - April 28, 2009 12:36 AM (GMT)
Super structures assembled. Lots of gaps and fleshing. I leave the fleshing as it is but need to fill the gaps.
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Cuba try test tengok...
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Thanks to Lim See Liang for informing me about the Bismarck book at Borders. I'll look for it this weekend.

Revliss - April 28, 2009 01:40 AM (GMT)
Dear multifilla, pleases state what ploblem you have with taking photo, some way and some one will provide a good tutorial on how to get it done :D

oh and thank you xamel1975 look like i kena Racun Bismarck suda ni must look for Bismarck or Yamato .. trumpeter maybe.

multifilla - April 28, 2009 03:43 AM (GMT)
[QUOTE=Silantra,Apr 26 2009, 10:28 PM][QUOTE=multifilla,Apr 26 2009, 07:50 PM] [QUOTE=Silantra,Apr 25 2009, 09:00 PM][QUOTE=multifilla,Apr 25 2009, 03:32 PM] [QUOTE=kuman,Apr 24 2009, 03:27 PM][QUOTE=Silantra,Apr 24 2009, 03:03 PM] [QUOTE=multifilla,Apr 24 2009, 01:45 PM] For encrustation would suggest using artificial snow when applied in between rust water atomised  water spray with snow sprinkled on created random encrustation.  The unusual feature of this snow is it does leave fine cellulose strands like algae weeds swirling with current (use a mini computer fan to generate movement) Why must all diaromas be so static. Even ghost ships have life!

Sample in showroom of this artificial snow diaroma to view. [/QUOTE]
Tauke Filla,

may i suggest you put photos on each of your comments... not all of us knows your product and not all of us have the luxury to visit your showroom...

perhaps a good quality photo will justify.... i would love to see the sample on this encrustation effect.......

my 0.2 sen [/QUOTE]
sokong.. sokong.. :))

kuman

@harman
- buat la 1 rover 1/350 scale... and ada lampu dok suluh cam gambar ko tuh.. pergh..[/QUOTE]
Silantra, Kuman dan lain lain penyokong,

Easier said than done as having spent 30 min trying to micro picture encrustation unable to download to cpu and photobucket. Do need clear magnification as Bismark scale is 1/350

Imran had the privilege to view when he came to collect the prizes and this will be our secret. Harman mari lah jika abang nak simpan rahsia. Infact all invited.[QUOTE] [/QUOTE]
taukefilla...this is unacceptable..drop and give me 20.... huhuhuhuh[/QUOTE]
Repeating all invited except Silantra who wants me to give him 20.00 Hahaha

Being cellulose the artificial snow builds up where there is moisture so you can random build crustation with the coral like holes. Rest is air brushing. For the silt you can use colloidal silica which absorbs water color for mud color. Bind the silica with matt sealer or diluted H20 varnish.

See easier to describe procedure than photobucket. [/QUOTE]
tauke, stil unacceptable!
Now gimme 50!
Ever heard that picture tells thousand than words?

Ps: harman sori hijack thread nko[/QUOTE]
Only heard of a visit fufills a thousand fantasies.
:P [QUOTE]

Revliss - April 28, 2009 03:50 AM (GMT)
so we need to send some one with a camera over there ???

Silantra - April 28, 2009 05:44 AM (GMT)
tauke dont gve excuse enimore la. We all tired with text only henpon.
Pls be careful with d open n close bracket/tag for the QUOTE tag. Berterabur la previous quote.

Ok back 2 d show. Keep it up harman.
U can put giant octopus by the side nanti

Revliss - April 28, 2009 05:46 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Silantra @ Apr 28 2009, 01:44 PM)
Ok back 2 d show. Keep it up harman.
U can put giant octopus by the side nanti

dude bukan octopus lah is SOtong giant Sotong is the big one lah .. bukan octopus :D

xamel1975 - April 28, 2009 06:38 AM (GMT)
I've been to Multifilla a few times but only recently I 'reintroduce' myself to Mr Leong. On my next visit, I will bring a camera along and get some photos of what he's talking about.

I really need to get the encrustation techniques right for this build. Otherwise it'll be too big for it's scale. I have yet to test the 'metal brush thingy' I bought from my last visit. Maybe I'll try it on this build.

By the way, is the artificial snow is the one sold in aerosol can? I used to have that before. Expired already.

multifilla - April 28, 2009 07:11 AM (GMT)
Revliss, Agreed with your suggestion to have the committee/members coming on an official visit soon to take pictures. Bomber Vince suggested the visit so place your pictures order now. Silantra invited also to take pictures.

multifilla - April 28, 2009 07:22 AM (GMT)
Harman,
Not the snow aerosol thing it will bury your Bismark. The artificial snow is in powder form so sprinkle where you want and bind with atomised water spray for refined application even on cables, masts , railings and where you want. Consists of short and long cellulose fibres that can duplicates as seaweed strands.

Though not a modeller myself I do understand my product very well being 23 years in this supply line. So where relevant I will chip in and suggest possible application. Not everything is done diorama form to spoon feed. Pic Pic Pic.... So now you will understand a visit fufill a thousand fantasies.

Surely Silantra would dream of such a place huhb huh

xamel1975 - May 4, 2009 01:49 AM (GMT)
Haven't make any progress yet eventhough it was holiday but I did went to Borders and got me this book. Thanks to Lim See Liang for the info!

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It's a book on Robert Ballard's expedition to find the Bismarck wreck in 90s. Lots of reference on the wreck. Most of it are paintings though but based on the pictures of their findings.

Got photos of the rover too... the ARGO!


xamel1975 - May 7, 2009 01:38 AM (GMT)
Marking the damages with black paint

Shell damage
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Shell damage beside the rear turret
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Huge shell damage near the catapult area
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The front superstructure suffers a heavy damage.
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The funnel – the top portion was ‘ripped’ apart leaving less than a quarter portion of the funnel.
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xamel1975 - May 7, 2009 01:41 AM (GMT)
The works

I cut the funnel along the marked line by using saw…
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…done…
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Then I grind the top using rotary tool to simulate the ripped apart look
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I grind off the marked damages area to thin down the plastic. Grinding was done from the inside.
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xamel1975 - May 7, 2009 01:44 AM (GMT)
Using this tool, I punch the damage area from the outside to simulate the shell penetration look. Using a lighter, a little heat is applied to assist the process.
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While doing this, a little sound effect could add some fun to the process :lol: . Piiiiiiiinngg…. TE-BA-BOOOoo!!!!

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In my haste, I have accidentally put on the catapult launcher. Bismarck catapult launcher was terribly damaged that it is almost does not exist. The frame underneath however, is still intact. So I pry out the glued catapult and need to scratch build the frame.
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Test-fitting the funnel. Need some adjustment on the ‘ripped’ area to get it fit
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Still to do, the collapsed stern. This will be done later as I need to create some hull internal around that area.

beachbum - May 7, 2009 02:09 AM (GMT)
Very well researched work thus far and equally detailed work. Looking at the detailing effort I bet the research alone is half the fun of doing this dio. Its the same for me coz most of the fun and satisfaction comes from the research when doing dios and figures.

Kind of makes me think how its almost the same if not more work to simulate damage to a kit then to assemble one. :) Turning out nicely.




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