Facing problem when trying to apply bare metal foil, it won't stick to small surface. The instruction said the foil will not stick on slick surface, so I scrape off paint from the surface, but still don't work. The foil should be OK, it stick well on unpainted flat surface. Anyone face such problem before? Can I apply white glue to the surface before applying the foil?

I might have encounter the same problem a few times but I assume this is because the BMF that I'm using is already a few years old... It might be because the adheshive is already worn off but have you try sanding the surface a bit before foiling rather than scraping off the paint?

I don't think applying white glue is advisable with BMF because it is too thin and the white glue might wrinkle it...

Just my five cents lah.. :D

Will give it a try. Thanks Imran.

Sorry guys, where can I purchase this bare metal foil?

Thanks.

You can get it at either HHQ or Multifilla.

[QUOTE]

Cleaning the surface with alcohol might help followed with modelling glue applied evenly. The modelling glue dries transparent and tacky. This will help to hold foil down.

Finally you may want to H20 covercoat varnish as sealing.

Thanks for the advise. I tried applying thin layer of white glue, and it managed to solved the problem.

HHQ n multifilla sell that BMF..? ^_^ how much for one pieces..?

Bro, better PM them for price and availability... :D

I saw one article in ARC and the guy used ordinary Aluminium Foil to do this. Any tips of what kind of glue that can be used for this technique? And how to do it. Almost making another post for this.

Aluminum foil is rather thick compare to BMF. I used to use Aluminum Foil as the backing for car's rear light. If I remember correctly, I use model cement to stick it.

I remember reading an article from FSM teaching how to apply metal foils using just conventional food aluminum foil wraps.... Need to dig out that article from my mountains of modeliing magazine.

Perhaps you can visit ARC there was a whole 6 part article on "Metalising" your plane with foils ... link here:


http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/

Under Tools 'N' Tips > Tips for beginners

P47-D for the fun of it - Part 1 P47-D for the fun of it - Part 2 P47-D for the fun of it - Part 3 P47-D for the fun of it - Part 4
by Larry Shred by Larry Shred by Larry Shred by Larry Shred

P47-D for the fun of it - Part 5 P47-D for the fun of it - Part 6
by Larry Shred by Larry Shred

These articles are very educational.

HTH. SAC33

Thanks for the link. Actually I'm asking for this question based on what I saw there. Only thing that I really wanted to know, how they connect two panel of foil in one surface, eg wings, fuselage etc. Coz it's hard to wrapping one large foil to one big section especially the cowl part.

BMF is very thin, so overlapping area will not be obvious.

U try spraying a thin layer of 3M Contact Adhesive?

Almost wanted to try that one (using 3M Contact Adhesive). But that thing are freaking expensive. There is only one Art shop here in KK and the price are ridiculously expensive. Rm95 per bottle. I think it's better I order the BMF rather than buying the 3M. :wacko:

Any idea how much per sheet and the size?

I might experiment using 3M when I found any of my friend using it.

Anyway, is it Rm6.90 per stick of pastel consider standard price? That is the price that I pay for one stick of black pastel. :blink:

Bare metal foil 15 cm x29 cm available in Black, Chrome, Ultra bright chrome, Matt aluminium and real copper are Rm 27.00 ex KL except for the copper.

twistedfinger> Yes, 3M is very expensive even in Penang. Last time....in 2004 a can was like Rm50+. Try alternative brand. Maybe cheaper. If you know any artist friend maybe you can "pinjam" a few dashes of sprays from them. Also do not over spray!
It can cause unevenness on the surface.

multifilla> Love to try out the Bare Metail Foil.
How much is the copper sheet?
Also do you have brass color?

How much is the postage to Penang?
Thanks.

[QUOTE]

Real copper Rm 35.00 one sheet.
Brass from the non adhesive range from Germany 140 x 140 mm 7 pcs at Rm 45.00
To adhere use water base modelling glue that dries transparent and tacky. A soft cream like adhesive that allows adjustment before drying and being tacky when dried helps to hold flat foil. 200g Rm 18.00

Courier for foil to Pg Rm 8.00. With glue Rm 12.00
Payment online Public Bank Bhd to Multifilla's current Account 3090237615
Please scan/fax 03 89613637 bank in slip with address and phone contact.

Do visit us when in KL
Happy modelling
Leong

Our apologies last message was meant to be PM to MIG

This is a link to an article I wrote about foiling a B29. not sure how much help it will be but certainly it will help a little.

http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal5...9_Shred/00.shtm

;)

Miccara>Thanks for the info on your article.
That will come in handy, mate.

Ooh..welcome to the forum and you are from........?

[QUOTE]



Forgive me for sharing as many would not have thought of metal foiling except with Bare Metal. Miccara lead shows aluminium foil can be used. What more if available in Bright red, Violet, sea green, cerulean blue, bright gold and sea green. It is a double bonous offer as the other side is shiny bright aluminium. Nice and shiny for planes, cars and ships.

Art Emboss extra soft embossing metal sheet in 3 mil (0.003) 91/2" x 60" available from Multifilla is thick enough for burnishing, and riveting with mini stainless steel screws and smoothening of lap joints with clay shaper all shown in picture. The micro screws are between the tools.

Pm for price available ex stock

Thanks!

I live in Brampton, Ontario Canada
Toronto if you don't know where Brampton is...

Hi Miccara> Wow....you are so far away.
How did you get to know this forum?
We would love to get to know you better at the introduction post.


How com' this hobby is so costly in Canada.
I once asked a friend in Ottawa to buy some decals in Canada.
My goodness you have so many taxes to buy thing in Canada.
GST, PST & HST = 29%

I'm right here... you're far away! ;)
I was searching P47D’s and a reference to an article I wrote for ARC appeared here. Started reading the post and thought the article on my B29 may be helpful, so I signed up to post my response.

I would guess it’s more expensive because most of the kits come from Asia/Korea/ Japan etc.
The Canadian dollar is not as strong as the Yen.

But its still fun!

Thanks for the reply Miccara. I know some how this Aluminium foil can be worked out. The only things is, I cannot get any Metal Leaf Adhesive in my place. Maybe, I need to try various glue before working on the actual project.

MiG21 : Also thanks for the advise. B)

multifilla : Do your shop sell any of this Metal Leaf Adhesive?

[QUOTE]

Yes we do have gilding foil in real and artificial gold , silver that will give the shine no metallic paint can achieve.

Also available is Bare metal with adhesive backing in Chrome, bright chrome, aluminium, copper, black chrome, matt aluminium

Art Emboss Ultralight weight 125 sheets 237mm x 305mm, Art emboss heavy gauge one side silver the othe side colored as picture in earlier posting.

EberhardFaber Easy metal 7 sheets pack 140mmx140mm in gold, copper, and abalone like pearl.

Easiest to apply are ultra fine metal powder in gold, brass, bronze and copper. Just dust over H20 covercoat varnish, dust off excess and let dry. Seal with H20 varnish thinly with fan brush.

Come with sun glasses too chang ngan (glaring).

Normal, everyday aluminum cooking foil is all you need.

Although I haven't tried it I would say normal white glue (Elmer's glue here), would work just as well. I would brush some on the foil and let it get tacky to the touch, then apply the foil to the model.

Why spend more money than you have to? Experiment a little.