Guys

Found this in one of the Japanese book. ( sorry lupa tajuk )..

It show 2 armoured car lying in a roadside somewhere in Malaya and I believe could be at Slim River. So far i do not know what type of this car. The nearest was ACV-IP Indian Pattern but it was too small for this mystery car. It could be a local built armoured car installed to CWT 4 ton truck?




Have a nice day


Shaharom Ahmad
MHG

oo look like amphibious vehicle,but i think probably a Dutch custom modified vehicle ,or French indochina forces vehicle that was station or retreat to Malay peninsular,

Was this pic taken during the malaya invasion or somewhere else?

Hmmm never heard or read about any dutch units in the defence of Malaya. As for the French, they are actually in league with the Japanese.

The men in the foreground are wearing floral sarong. The only two places I know of men wearing floral sarong is in Burma or Indonesia.

If these look like Dutch vehicles then perhaps it's in Indonesia post war.

Just guessing.

Richard.

:D I got responds from other forum member wrote:

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Not Malaysia

These are "Overvaalwagens" from Dutch East India.
A lot of info can be found at:

http://www.overvalwagen.com/

Erik
Sweden

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Not Malaysia
An 'Overvalwagen' produced by Braat in Surabaya on Java to be precise.
The picture was probably taken on Java, early march 1942.

Theo

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I'm not sure whos wrong and whos right

:D

See!!...I thought those guys look suspiciously funny in those sarongs. :lol: :lol:

So it's Dutch vehicles then in Indonesia.

Thanks to Erik and Theo for identifying them.

Richard.

Yes, its look similar to Overvalwagen but the front section were not match with the Dutch...

The caption of the photo was in Malaya and that sarongs men were Indian...

from my opinion it look like the braat chassis overvalwagen modified a bit maybe some in java had modified to hold round turret ,for the indian looking guy wearing sarong my guess will be somewhere in Bali, but if it really was in Malaya i wont be so suprise some dutch east indies forces was station at airfield in Malaya and Singapore mosly fighter squadron and bomber,some dutch soldier ,mechanic ,pilot ,or sailor perhaps, probably number to few thousand .so maybe the vehicle serve as armored protection carrier for dutch personal retreating to Singapore but was knocked out or cut off during retreat.

cengitu can u research on this ?

100th Indian Independent. Light Tank Squadron, Malaya 1942

In April 1941 one Jat squadron was detached from 8th King George’s Own Light Cavalry and assigned to the newly raised 44th Cavalry then at Risalpur. Subsequently, this squadron was detached and redesignated as 100th Light Tank Squadron. It was composed of three troops and equipped with obsolete light tanks
The squadron had between 9 and 18 of these tanks.
The squadron was sent to Malaya early in 1942. On 29 January 1942, His Majesty’s Transport Empire Star arrived in Singapore with "16 tanks of obsolescent type." On 11 February 1942 a detachment of squadron was attached to Massy Force of 18th Infantry Division for counterattacks against the Japanese forces on Singapore Island. The entire squadron was lost when British forces surrrendered on 15 February 1942.
the tank was Vickers Light Tank VI B (India Pattern)and Light Tank Mk IV India Pattern

i had seen some disturbing war report on web site stated British forces in Malaya had some valentine mk 3 ,A12 matilda mk2,and m3 stuart light tank british version.i know only British 7th armored was sent to Burma not sure about Malaya,futher armored tank was sent to Malaya but was diverted to Java.

when looking at the war in Malaya, one sometimes forget that it was war fought on a wider regional scale.
and that's why it's always interesting to have a wider perspective of the conflict as in knowing what transpired in the Dutch East Indies.
so, for the benefit of all, i've added this link for those unaware of it's existence.
-www.geocities.com/dutcheastindies/
as there's this bit of written information clearly states the detour of British light tanks (namely, 25 Vickers Light Tanks Mark VIB and VIC - B Squadron, 3rd the King's Own Hussars) to Java.
-www.geocities.com/dutcheastindies/british_armour.html
as for track armour in the battle for Malaya, bren carriers were about it.
speaking of which i recall having seen one "wasted" out in the open at the MINDEF Armed Forces Museum in KL ages ago.

I believed this tank squadron was sent from India straight into battles and prison camp.

this tank usage were limited due to Japanese strategy where large areas were captured by japanese and it was used for road blocks or stationery defence post.

http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/Quarters...ghtmk2/lt2f.jpg

NOthing can be done for those light tanks to stop Japanese advance but it will change something if it was pressed into Malaya in the early days of the invasion.

MINDEF Universal carrier right now was relocated to Army Museum Port Dickson.