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Title: Review : Hobby Boss V-150 With Mecar Gun
Description: Quick Look Review


Silantra - February 11, 2009 06:33 AM (GMT)
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A quick look of what hobby boss offer us ..

First what's in the box
The kit contains 5 sprues molded in light grey, one molded in clear , 4 vinyls tyres and one small brass chain.
There's a 24 pages instructions with one sheet of painting guide. However there is no decal supplied. the main body is divided in two and are attached with tape in the box.

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The quality of the molded is excellent i believed but there are some parting lines in some parts that i observed.

some photos of the parts

the main hull
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the turret
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the rubber tyres
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the jerry cans is molded with straps..kinda cool feature here
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the M73 7.62 machine gun
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the 90mm gun is one piece !!!
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the bakul durian is broken when i open the box....
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the smoke grenades are molded to the brackets
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the kit gives us 12 pieces of grenades, 6 on each side....
comparison to our modern grenades (the brass grenades is lion roar set)
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this is all a quick look....i will follow up with build review soon

thanks

rtfoe - February 11, 2009 07:59 AM (GMT)
Wah!!! after seeing your review must buy one.

Does MMH have it? I can live without the Lion Roar grenades and slowly scratch them...also because kiam sap loh :lol:

Good review Sil...look forward to your build.

Richard.

Silantra - February 11, 2009 08:09 AM (GMT)
Rich, thanks

MMH as in Miniature Hobby?? hmm i dont know...i place my book since last november but still tak masuk.... and know they're moving plak... so my only hope is LM...

up till now, the fate of the grenades will remain the same...but i still searching for the right config for malaysian v-150.
According to reference from xamel's excellent walkaround photos, the grenades are installed 9 in each side parallel to each other, while a photo at KAD musem in PD (the infamous no wheeler APC), the grenades are place 6 each with 3 in each row just like the one offer by hobby boss.
Since i want to build a Malaysian version, the exact location is essential.
Furthermore, the side door/hatch should be bigger or wider....

hmmmm

hashaney - February 11, 2009 09:15 AM (GMT)
Zaidi aka Silantra. TQ for the excellent review on HobbyBoss V-150 90mm Mecar.

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According to reference from xamel's excellent walkaround photos, the grenades are installed 9 in each side parallel to each other, while a photo at KAD musem in PD (the infamous no wheeler APC), the grenades are place 6 each with 3 in each row just like the one offer by hobby boss.
Since i want to build a Malaysian version, the exact location is essential.
Furthermore, the side door/hatch should be bigger or wider....


Xamel excellent walkaround pics is NOT V-150 90mm Mecar, its a 7.62mm Twin Coax GPMG... Of course the Smk Grn arrangement is different bcoz of different turret is fitted. This vehicle has the wider door bcoz it is an APC to facilitate 1 x section (10 pax) "debussing" whereby the Mecar version is FSV thus using a smaller door bcoz it is only manned by 4 personnel so no need wider door. As you can see on the actual pic of Mecar at the KAD muzium in Port Dickson. Only thing is missing is the "burn-out" tires and the 90mm Barrel. The barrel is being replace by wood becoz the original barrel is "damaged" and has been salvaged and scraped at the Ordnance depot.


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mejŪ

Silantra - February 11, 2009 03:35 PM (GMT)
thanks major... in another word, the hobbyboss kit is just right for our version??

and how about the two mg mounted on the turret and at the rear..are they equipped on ours??

thanks once again

hashaney - February 12, 2009 02:15 AM (GMT)
Yup. Exactly the same weapons but we don't call it M73,
we call it FN-MAG or simply GPMG or "Gipang (Jeepang)"...


mej®

Silantra - February 16, 2009 05:36 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (hashaney @ Feb 12 2009, 10:15 AM)
Yup. Exactly the same weapons but we don't call it M73,
we call it FN-MAG or simply GPMG or "Gipang (Jeepang)"...


mejŪ

ok..roger that tuan...thanks

Revliss - February 16, 2009 06:12 AM (GMT)
???? why do i have the feeling that the model kit is longer in scale then the real thing ?

cptan - February 16, 2009 07:15 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Revliss @ Feb 16 2009, 02:12 PM)
???? why do i have the feeling that the model kit is longer in scale then the real thing ?

I presume it's the angle of view mislead by the fold on the middle of the hull that "tipu" your eye sight that it's "thiner" and longor on the part's photo... while the real vehicle photo is shot at the same horizon of the eye sight that looks "thicker" and "shorter".

OK, we let the expert confirm this lar.

CPTan

Silantra - February 17, 2009 02:51 AM (GMT)
Jeff@MH just called me to announce that this kit is now available at MH....

so gangs, go go V-150....cepat2 pergi MH and beli as what i heard the stock is running wild these time...

probably my second v-150

scud b - March 30, 2009 04:23 AM (GMT)
i have finish assembles this v-150 with 90mm deca gun
together with v-150 20mm gun. overall fitting is okay
but sadly in both kits does have any decal,
v-150 with 90mm gun are in sevices for malaysian army in late 60-70
also in service in saudi national guard, v-150 20mm gun in services with
royal malaysian police, for us army both of them are not in services
except for v-150 with 7.92 twin machine gun in service with us military police
^_^

scud b - March 30, 2009 04:29 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Silantra @ Feb 11 2009, 11:35 PM)
thanks major... in another word, the hobbyboss kit is just right for our version??

and how about the two mg mounted on the turret and at the rear..are they equipped on ours??

thanks once again

i saw one v-150 with twin 7.62 gpmg but the turret is a bit different from hobbyboss kit . it was at 2 briged camp in ipoh

Silantra - March 30, 2009 04:30 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (scud b @ Mar 30 2009, 12:23 PM)
i have finish assembles this v-150 with 90mm deca gun
together with v-150 20mm gun. overall fitting is okay
but sadly in both kits does have any decal,
v-150 with 90mm gun are in sevices for malaysian army in late 60-70
also in service in saudi national guard, v-150 20mm gun in services with
royal malaysian police, for us army both of them are not in services
except for v-150 with 7.92 twin machine gun in service with us military police
^_^

mr scub, show us the photos la.... as mentioned in my review, no decals are supplied.... thats' too bad but if we are going to do our own version, then kit decals wont works.....

so tuan major, any info on the marking??? lama tak design ni

scud b - March 30, 2009 04:33 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Silantra @ Mar 30 2009, 12:30 PM)
QUOTE (scud b @ Mar 30 2009, 12:23 PM)
i have finish assembles this v-150 with 90mm deca gun
together with v-150 20mm gun. overall fitting is okay
but sadly in both kits does have any decal,
v-150 with 90mm gun are in sevices for malaysian army in late 60-70
also in service in saudi national guard, v-150 20mm gun in services with
royal malaysian police, for us army both of them are not in services
except for v-150 with 7.92 twin machine gun in service with  us  military police
^_^

mr scub, show us the photos la.... as mentioned in my review, no decals are supplied.... thats' too bad but if we are going to do our own version, then kit decals wont works.....

so tuan major, any info on the marking??? lama tak design ni

which photo did ur mean,
may i asked :)

Silantra - March 30, 2009 04:50 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (scud b @ Mar 30 2009, 12:33 PM)
QUOTE (Silantra @ Mar 30 2009, 12:30 PM)
QUOTE (scud b @ Mar 30 2009, 12:23 PM)
i have finish assembles this v-150 with 90mm deca gun
together with v-150 20mm gun. overall fitting is okay
but sadly in both kits does have any decal,
v-150 with 90mm gun are in sevices for malaysian army in late 60-70
also in service in saudi national guard, v-150 20mm gun in services with
royal malaysian police, for us army both of them are not in services
except for v-150 with 7.92 twin machine gun in service with  us  military police
^_^

mr scub, show us the photos la.... as mentioned in my review, no decals are supplied.... thats' too bad but if we are going to do our own version, then kit decals wont works.....

so tuan major, any info on the marking??? lama tak design ni

which photo did ur mean,
may i asked :)

photo of ur assembled v-150 la....unless u have some good photos................

scud b - March 30, 2009 05:17 AM (GMT)
ok, i posted in later

hashaney - March 30, 2009 05:24 AM (GMT)
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so tuan major, any info on the marking??? lama tak design ni


Marking I presume is the same as u did last time with that jengking except the veh plate number is ZA XXX. Its a Cavalry Unit with 1XX on Red and Yellow with Old Div Marking of Malaysian Star with top Red and bottom Black background.

Here the sample pic for your ref:

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mej®

seelianglim - March 30, 2009 05:31 AM (GMT)
Isnt there another V100 (or V150) at the entrance to Tanjung Tuan,Bt 10, in Port Dickson?

sllim

hashaney - March 30, 2009 05:41 AM (GMT)
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i saw one v-150 with twin 7.62 gpmg but the turret is a bit different from hobbyboss kit . it was at 2 briged camp in ipoh


You are correct, our Army Twin GPMG is NOT THE SAME especially the turret with Hobby Boss Twin Jeepang...

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Isnt there another V100 (or V150) at the entrance to Tanjung Tuan,Bt 10, in Port Dickson?


Lim, is it at the Entrance of Armor Trg Centre (PULAMOR) or Batu 10 Tg Tuan?

mej®

scud b - March 30, 2009 05:55 AM (GMT)
if any malaysian decals available for this lav-150
please pm me also ^_^

seelianglim - March 30, 2009 06:04 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (hashaney @ Mar 30 2009, 01:41 PM)
QUOTE
i saw one v-150 with twin 7.62 gpmg but the turret is a bit different from hobbyboss kit . it was at 2 briged camp in ipoh


You are correct, our Army Twin GPMG is NOT THE SAME especially the turret with Hobby Boss Twin Jeepang...

QUOTE
Isnt there another V100 (or V150) at the entrance to Tanjung Tuan,Bt 10, in Port Dickson?


Lim, is it at the Entrance of Armor Trg Centre (PULAMOR) or Batu 10 Tg Tuan?

mejŪ

Well Mejar, there is a army camp at Bt 10, but i have forgotten the camp name. The vehicle is parked inside the fence just at the entrance from the main road at Bt 10. The bt 10 entrance also take ppl to the Light house (which i go almost every weekend)

sllim

hashaney - March 30, 2009 06:51 AM (GMT)
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Well Mejar, there is a army camp at Bt 10, but i have forgotten the camp name. The vehicle is parked inside the fence just at the entrance from the main road at Bt 10. The bt 10 entrance also take ppl to the Light house (which i go almost every weekend)



Confirm Lim, The V-150 is in the PULAMOR...

mej®

Silantra - March 30, 2009 08:37 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (hashaney @ Mar 30 2009, 01:24 PM)
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so tuan major, any info on the marking??? lama tak design ni


Marking I presume is the same as u did last time with that jengking except the veh plate number is ZA XXX. Its a Cavalry Unit with 1XX on Red and Yellow with Old Div Marking of Malaysian Star with top Red and bottom Black background.

Here the sample pic for your ref:

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mejŪ

Tuan Major Berdaftar,

when u said marking is the same, are u referring to the KAD marking ke??

looking at the photo, nothing is the same....except for the red/yellow triangle.

from the photo the 1xx is 112 right??

and also, do you have close up shot on the old Div marking?? what div is that?? tak macam 3rd div aje.....


so if i want to model those days v-150, is this is the only unit/div marking that is correct??

sorry banyak soalan...i hope the bondite wont stick ut finger to the keyboard

hashaney - March 30, 2009 12:10 PM (GMT)
Zaidi, don't worry about accuracy on old Malaysian Marking bcoz those day every marking is done at unit workshop by hand...

The Cavalry (Old KAD name) unit is the same RED and Yellow except the DIV/Army Marking is the Malaysian 13 pointed star in yellow with Black top and Red below. That all. Those day div/army numerical is seldom used....

Hope Shah can assist on this...

mej®

scud b - March 31, 2009 12:22 AM (GMT)
how do i upload pic here

masterqq - March 31, 2009 01:56 AM (GMT)
Gang...

Some photos taken from an old ATM journal that I found in Jitra library..

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Now.. since we got a few kakis here doing this subject, can we have a Mini GB for MGB09... kinda like what we did for the KIFV dio.. amacam?

Silantra - March 31, 2009 02:00 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (masterqq @ Mar 31 2009, 09:56 AM)
Gang...

Some photos taken from an old ATM journal that I found in Jitra library..

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Now.. since we got a few kakis here doing this subject, can we have a Mini GB for MGB09... kinda like what we did for the KIFV dio.. amacam?

Tom,

awesome old photos.... hang memang terer mengorek...

thanks for sharing them.... ni yg bersemangat semula ni.....


errr guys, i got one extra v-150 (mecar)... sape interested nak beli from me, pls PM... hehe

otherwise, this will be put inside The Vault and will be open after i die......... :)

landyshah - March 31, 2009 02:03 AM (GMT)
Tuan2

This vehicle is a decade down the line from the Quad/25pdr I made. Some changes in the markings compared to what I research before...

KAD didnt exist in those days. Was called Royal Reconnaissance Regiment ("Recce Corp") from 72-79 then change name to Royal Cavalry Corp until 1986, when it was changed to KAD.

I guess these V150 was in service in the 70's-mid 80's? So it would be fairly accurate to potray it in the colours of Recce or Cavalry.

From what I can see in the pic, the Cavalry badge on the turret looks correct in colours ie yellow/red. The unit marking also looks correct, but I am not sure of what unit this vehicle was from (ie 1,2 or 3 Recce). I would assume the Museum knew what they were doing when they restored it...maybe can ask them?

The right side is the divisional marking...it looks correct for the 70s - black/red and (shud be yellow) Federation star....

Anyway here is a pic I found....No marking on these V150:
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As diversion, anyone want to model this? Our Ferrets in Congo in 1960 (sorry yer Sil, tumpang thread) The last pic would make a great dio I think, the figure pose is very nice, putting on his boots, sitting on a briefcase and his clothing bag next to him....Richard...racun? hehehe
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Thomas: I think I know which book u took this pics..its a red cover anniversary journal kinda thing. If not mistaken, published by Asian Defence Journal company in conjunction with ATM. I had one...but dunno where now :angry: :angry: .
Very very good source for our Armed Forces in the 70's/80's....full of pics of Series 3 LR, Merc & volvo trucks, V150, Pack 105, Tebuan, Skyhawks, Caribous, KD Hang Tuah, La Combattante, Spica M etcc........

Silantra - March 31, 2009 02:59 AM (GMT)
shah,

hang pon mat korek la kot....thanks for the rare pics (at least rare to me..)

azlandiver - March 31, 2009 03:24 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (landyshah @ Mar 31 2009, 10:03 AM)
If not mistaken, published by Asian Defence Journal company in conjunction with ATM. I had one...but dunno where now  :angry:  :angry: .
Very very good source for our Armed Forces in the 70's/80's....full of pics of Series 3 LR, Merc & volvo trucks, V150, Pack 105, Tebuan, Skyhawks, Caribous, KD Hang Tuah, La Combattante, Spica M etcc........

errrr ada lagi ke buku ni? :D :ph43r:

masterqq - March 31, 2009 03:28 AM (GMT)
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errrr ada lagi ke buku ni? 

Ada, kat Jitra library...

Shah is right about the jurnel.. ATM 50th anniversary journal la tu....

druid_99 - March 31, 2009 11:30 AM (GMT)
Shah, this picture comes a bit too late lah.... (about a year late hahaha... ) when I was scratchbuilding the scout car... :lol:

hashaney - March 31, 2009 01:31 PM (GMT)
Zaidi, kira dah boleh le tu buat marking tu...

Ikut gambar ni:

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ZA 785, 3rd Cav Regiment of 2nd Division. CAV emblem on Turret...

Bila dah pencen ni, informer pun dah lesap....

mej®

PS: Tango Kilo to Shah n Thomas for the "rare" V-150 pics

Silantra - March 31, 2009 03:30 PM (GMT)
Tuan Mejar Berdaftar,

thanks for the info... in the pics, the div marking is for 2nd Div kan?? used to see the 3rd div marking everyday during childhood..hehe
they are all the same kan?? the only diff is the alphanumber under the parang kan??
so in another words, at the time this vehicle in operational status, they were operated by then CAV la?? KAD still tak 'gezet' lagi ehh...
so the unit insignia at the turret is the same KAd marking that i used minus the dark blue bg kan??

the template is still here.... plus igot a good clear pic of the KAD emblem shot at the door of their landrover parked at HUKM....



landyshah - March 31, 2009 03:40 PM (GMT)
Sil,

The turret marking is just the cavalry badge jer bro. Yellow/red with the kris and fist. Yes, the Div marking semua sama...just bawah parang tu nombor lain jer....

Tu ha, dah cukup materials dah as Tuan Mejar said. So aper lagi? Nak tunggu Rotan? HAHAHAHA

Silantra - March 31, 2009 03:43 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (landyshah @ Mar 31 2009, 11:40 PM)
Sil,

The turret marking is just the cavalry badge jer bro. Yellow/red with the kris and fist. Yes, the Div marking semua sama...just bawah parang tu nombor lain jer....

Tu ha, dah cukup materials dah as Tuan Mejar said. So aper lagi? Nak tunggu Rotan? HAHAHAHA

yela..penumbuk n keris...

sabau bro...aku suka buat kejutan..... element of surpise penting bro in all wars... huahahahahah [evil laugh.........]

supaglue - March 31, 2009 03:53 PM (GMT)
ah, what fond memories i have of Sungala Camp (Has it since been renamed - Kem SiRusa??) having lived there in the mid 1970's.
"recce" (that's a Brit hangover), was known as kor peninjau.
There were operational rotations between the 1st and 2nd Recce regiments. ie from East Malaysia to West Malaysia vice-versa.
Familar sight around PD would be the countless Land Rovers, 4 and 6 wheeled Volvos, Panhards, Ferrets (with red wheel nuts), and yes! the V-150 commandos with thier huge run-flat tires.
Those V-150's had names painted in white on to the sides of the turrets.
The red 'n yellow had single white numerics painted on - either "1" or "2".
The funniest thing to ever happen was the appearence of a V-150 early one morning at the front door of the housing quaters in replacement of the usual car which had broken down!
One of the saddest days at the camp, was the loss of a V-150 crew who were killed on a training excercise at the firing range in Asahan. A breach gun ...
Saw it being towed back late one evening.
But the best part of Sungala Camp was a polo field right at the end, with real life horses grazing long before there was anything remotely called country homes in the country! Simply inspiring to wake up to that sight each morning.
The best part was that, there were always armored vehicles being "tested", i was pretty lucky to have seen the an incredibally wide bodied German Fuchs on the road, French VAB Saviem, the Brazillian Cascavell and Engesa, the Canadian GM Cougar (6x6 Mowag), and even an M113 with a turreted gun. The tall Sibmas was on trial around then...

-http://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kor_Armor_DiRaja

hashaney - March 31, 2009 04:24 PM (GMT)
Zaidi, to lighten up about this KAD thingy, Cav do still exist. Cavalry mission is to carry recce or light armour duties and the hardware they use is wheel APC like V-150, Condor, Panhard, Ferret (for scouting).

Since the Cav Regt is eagerly to get hold of Tank (no matter what size) so they change Kor kavalry Diraja (KKD) to Kor Armor Diraja) but due to budget constraint, that Tank never show up until last 3 to 4 years the Pendekar arrived...

Conclusion, Kav or KKD = KAD. Symbol no change since the formation of Persekutuan Tanah Melayu or Federated Malay States till today. The only exception is Regiment Call Sign or designation ie, single digit X is basically a Cav Regt, 1X is Tank Regt and 2X is APC Regiment (still in process, I think but it also a redundant to Mechanised Infantry).

The Background colour on Iron Fist (KAD emblem) is actually a squadron colour. If not mistaken, Red is A Sqn, Blue is B Sqn, Yellow is C Sqn and Green is D Sqn. Iron Fist grabbing the lightning bolt on Blue Background belong to PULAMOR (Pusat Latihan Armor)

Red/Yellow is standard Commonwealth Armour Colour. Hope u all can follow me...

mej®

Supaglue, Kem Sungala I think is still Kem Sungala, never change. Kem SiRusa belong to IJED (Institut Kejuruteraan Tentera Darat) of KJLJD.

supaglue - March 31, 2009 04:43 PM (GMT)
Sorry, but "IJED (Institut Kejuruteraan Tentera Darat) of KJLJD"
would that be somehow related to AFFAT?
Recall that Si Rusa Inn of old was some distance away from the Garrison and Yatch Club.
FTI, back in the those days, there was talk of the TAM (a derivative of the German Marder APC) instead of the Sibmas.
Would have been interesting to pair that up with the Scorpion.

Silantra - March 31, 2009 04:47 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (hashaney @ Apr 1 2009, 12:24 AM)
Zaidi, to lighten up about this KAD thingy, Cav do still exist. Cavalry mission is to carry recce or light armour duties and the hardware they use is wheel APC like V-150, Condor, Panhard, Ferret (for scouting).

Since the Cav Regt is eagerly to get hold of Tank (no matter what size) so they change Kor kavalry Diraja (KKD) to Kor Armor Diraja) but due to budget constraint, that Tank never show up until last 3 to 4 years the Pendekar arrived...

Conclusion, Kav or KKD = KAD. Symbol no change since the formation of Persekutuan Tanah Melayu or Federated Malay States till today. The only exception is Regiment Call Sign or designation ie, single digit X is basically a Cav Regt, 1X is Tank Regt and 2X is APC Regiment (still in process, I think but it also a redundant to Mechanised Infantry).

The Background colour on Iron Fist (KAD emblem) is actually a squadron colour. If not mistaken, Red is A Sqn, Blue is B Sqn, Yellow is C Sqn and Green is D Sqn. Iron Fist grabbing the lightning bolt on Blue Background belong to PULAMOR (Pusat Latihan Armor)

Red/Yellow is standard Commonwealth Armour Colour. Hope u all can follow me...

mejŪ

Supaglue, Kem Sungala I think is still Kem Sungala, never change. Kem SiRusa belong to IJED (Institut Kejuruteraan Tentera Darat) of KJLJD.

thanks major..that really helps....





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