Title: Lcly German Tank Commander
Description: My 1st 1/16 Figure...
Bomber Vince - September 22, 2008 04:29 PM (GMT)

Ok this is my first figure, painted till this stage during the previous figure painting work shop.
Uniform are a mixture of Gunze H12 flat black and H315 (the color for F-14 radome). The hilighted areas are the same mixture with more H315
While the face are a mixture of Gunze H-315 and Tamiya XF-68 Nato Brown

Don't ya'll feel this guy is LCLY?....hehe
beachbum - September 23, 2008 06:18 AM (GMT)
First off Vince let me apologize for abandoning you and Joeker behind as we left early during the recent workshop.
As mentioned during the workshop this is a nice figure to work with especially for practice and its free too. :P Its big enough and the folds are not too complex. Looking at it again I think you may have to lighten up the entire field blouse so it will be a slightly different shade versus the pants. I know you have put in the 1st highlight already but looking at the fig now under better lighting the field blouse is almost the same shade as the pants. Not critical but it would make the figure more interesting seeing as it will eventually be all shades of black.
As for the skintones, you will need to add a teeny weeny drop of red to the basecoat to give it the overall skin a slight pinkish flesh appearance as the basecoat is too pale. Is the Gunze H-315 you are using semi-gloss coz I can't understand how the skintone appears slightly glossy?
Do keep us posted on the progress and may the Force be with you.
Bomber Vince - September 23, 2008 06:58 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (beachbum @ Sep 23 2008, 02:18 PM) |
First off Vince let me apologize for abandoning you and Joeker behind as we left early during the recent workshop.
As mentioned during the workshop this is a nice figure to work with especially for practice and its free too. :P Its big enough and the folds are not too complex. Looking at it again I think you may have to lighten up the entire field blouse so it will be a slightly different shade versus the pants. I know you have put in the 1st highlight already but looking at the fig now under better lighting the field blouse is almost the same shade as the pants. Not critical but it would make the figure more interesting seeing as it will eventually be all shades of black.
As for the skintones, you will need to add a teeny weeny drop of red to the basecoat to give it the overall skin a slight pinkish flesh appearance as the basecoat is too pale. Is the Gunze H-315 you are using semi-gloss coz I can't understand how the skintone appears slightly glossy?
Do keep us posted on the progress and may the Force be with you. |
CK,
Thanks for your attention, I've found out that too, I'm painting in the dark during the work shop... hehe
will try all our method and try finish this figure during the HR holiday.
seelianglim - September 24, 2008 09:39 AM (GMT)
Bomber,
dun screw it up ya. we all want to see the finished product. I may also give a go with figure painting after my completion of the 1/72 Harrier II
sllim
Bomber Vince - October 2, 2008 07:22 AM (GMT)

I painted the top slightly lighter then the bottom, as suggested by the Plaster Man.

It tools me almost 90mins to paint the face. beginner mar...

As usual, any suggestions, critics are welcome.
Loo CK - October 2, 2008 11:53 AM (GMT)
BV,
good attempt but I think the eyes can be a bit smaller as they appear a bit too large
Bomber Vince - October 2, 2008 12:20 PM (GMT)
Loo,
I've noticed that too, even one of the eyeballs are bit out.

Basic paint work completed

I've applied a layer of oil wash coz the acrylic wash can't make the effect that I want.

Base are made from spray can cap, scribed and painted with buff then textured with oil paints.

I've added some darker tones around the eyes so that it'll look smaller

Hair painted with yellow and textured with raw umber.
Bomber Vince - October 2, 2008 12:31 PM (GMT)


That's all I can do today, must wait for the oil paints to dry before the final clear coat.

Temporary storage for my first figure.
Many thanks to CK Tang and CP Tan for the previous workshop, this this is the best figure that I've ever painted, although there's still many rooms for improvement, I'm quite happy this time.
PoohBear - October 5, 2008 04:05 AM (GMT)
Good effort BV
His stubble looks a little sharply delineated though. Might want to blend it in a little more.
cheers
Bomber Vince - October 5, 2008 03:00 PM (GMT)
thanks, jason. will do that, since I've not clear coated it yet.
beachbum - October 6, 2008 03:48 AM (GMT)
A good overall effort Vince and definitely better than my first figure. Not sure if you have matt the whole fig coz I can't tell from the pic of its final resting place. You may need to matt it down especially the face.
You've got most of the basics and you will get better and better with a bit more practice. Black is not an easy figure to paint coz different shades has to be used to differentiate the gloves from the pants, the pants from the blouse, the blouse from the boots, etc. but overall its a good effort. The base is nicely done too.
I hope you found painting him fun.
Loo CK - October 6, 2008 04:05 AM (GMT)
BV,
very good first attempt. The eyes look a lot better with the sleepy look.
Agree with Jason, the stubbles need to be blended a bit. Too sharp.
you may want to put in the pink piping (edge) on the vest.
PoohBear - October 6, 2008 04:07 AM (GMT)
What our BV friend needs now is a dose of heavy metal poisoning. ^_^
Bomber Vince - October 6, 2008 02:20 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (beachbum @ Oct 6 2008, 11:48 AM) |
A good overall effort Vince and definitely better than my first figure. Not sure if you have matt the whole fig coz I can't tell from the pic of its final resting place. You may need to matt it down especially the face.
You've got most of the basics and you will get better and better with a bit more practice. Black is not an easy figure to paint coz different shades has to be used to differentiate the gloves from the pants, the pants from the blouse, the blouse from the boots, etc. but overall its a good effort. The base is nicely done too.
I hope you found painting him fun. |
Thanks for the comment s guys.
CK Tang,
The whole figure needs some matt coat, but only dare to do it after a week coz I'm using oils.
I have another 1/12 figure... hopefully I can paint it well. anyway, thanks for the useful instructions. as for the base, it's a rush job, done in 30min... :P
Bomber Vince - October 6, 2008 02:32 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Loo CK @ Oct 6 2008, 12:05 PM) |
BV, very good first attempt. The eyes look a lot better with the sleepy look. Agree with Jason, the stubbles need to be blended a bit. Too sharp.
you may want to put in the pink piping (edge) on the vest. |
isit the lining on the collar? I don't have any reference on that. so isit pink or red?
beachbum - October 7, 2008 12:33 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Bomber Vince @ Oct 6 2008, 10:32 PM) |
isit the lining on the collar? I don't have any reference on that. so isit pink or red? |
Its pink Vince coz Pink was the color used for all Panzer troops. Red is for armored artillery units Its a lining called waffenfarbe on the 2 tabs found on the upper collar.
I have listed this site before under Resources as its a very good site for Allied and Axis troops in the Resource section. Here is what you are looking for.
Panzer tunic
cptan - October 7, 2008 01:27 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Bomber Vince @ Oct 6 2008, 10:32 PM) |
| QUOTE (Loo CK @ Oct 6 2008, 12:05 PM) | BV, very good first attempt. The eyes look a lot better with the sleepy look. Agree with Jason, the stubbles need to be blended a bit. Too sharp.
you may want to put in the pink piping (edge) on the vest. |
isit the lining on the collar? I don't have any reference on that. so isit pink or red?
|
I've painted this figure a few years back, my research is pink for Panzer (Tank) trrop and red for artilary.
Hope any German Tank sifu can verify this...
CPTan
Loo CK - October 7, 2008 08:01 AM (GMT)
CP is right,
pink for tank crew
Bomber Vince - October 7, 2008 12:41 PM (GMT)
thanks Ck Tang, CP Tan and CK Loo, then I should changed the cap lining to pink as well.
KIRIN - October 7, 2008 02:55 PM (GMT)
Sorry Vince, forget to give you the painting intruction when I pass u the figure.
This is a Tamiya kit, which allow you to build either a self-propeller gun crew or a SS Panzer Commander.
Here is the picture of the self-propeller gun crew.
http://tamiyashop.jp/shop/popup_image.php?pID=36301There is still a box of this 1/16 figure at Tamiya Underground. Go and take a look if you drop by, the detailed info is at the side of the box. ;)
Here is another refference for you.
http://www.alpineminiatures.com/imagepages/35047.htmlPS: Alpine miniature are really superb! I kena poison when I bought the 1/35 American Op Irqi Marine. :lol:
Bomber Vince - November 4, 2008 03:48 PM (GMT)
beachbum - November 10, 2008 12:45 AM (GMT)
Almost missed this one. As mentioned earlier its a good first time effort Vince. I only wished my first figure looked as good.
If it helps try to avoid any semi-gloss/gloss paints in painting WWII figures. Even if its leather you can always give it a coat of satin after you finish. Unlike planes and tanks its not always easy to fully flat or matt a figure as by doing so you will reduce the contrasts between the highlights and shadows. Ok for planes and AFV but muting the highs and shadows on figures messes up the 3-D effect.
Now you've cleared your 1st figure lets hope there will be many more to come.
Bomber Vince - November 10, 2008 03:37 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (beachbum @ Nov 10 2008, 08:45 AM) |
Almost missed this one. As mentioned earlier its a good first time effort Vince. I only wished my first figure looked as good.
If it helps try to avoid any semi-gloss/gloss paints in painting WWII figures. Even if its leather you can always give it a coat of satin after you finish. Unlike planes and tanks its not always easy to fully flat or matt a figure as by doing so you will reduce the contrasts between the highlights and shadows. Ok for planes and AFV but muting the highs and shadows on figures messes up the 3-D effect.
Now you've cleared your 1st figure lets hope there will be many more to come. |
CK,
I totally agree with u on the gloss thing, the final flat coat mess up all the details and shadow.
huuhhh... mu "kung fu" not enought...thanks for the guidance.
Loo CK - November 10, 2008 01:22 PM (GMT)
BV,
If I am not mistaken, the piping on the collar is also pink....Also, the tie and inner shirt is normally not black. A different colour there will bring out the black of the jacket which CK pointed out a long time ago to me is actually wool and not leather, so it shouldn't shine.
What size brushes are you using?? I am asking because the the badges looks a little loaded with paint and with a smaller brush you can eliminate this problem.
Bomber Vince - November 11, 2008 04:58 AM (GMT)
hehe, thanks for pointing up Loo, I use only 2 brush for this figure, as I only have these in hand, a no 0 Chinese brush and a flat no 2 brush.
As for the pink lining in the collar, I'll avoid it this time as this is a 2nd hand kit, paint is bit thick already and the lines are barely seen, I never intended to finish this kit in the beginning as i should be something for me to practice in the figure workshop.
After the workshop, I found my self stepping one foot in the figure territory, so I made a decision to finish it to an "acceptable stage" and will use the lesson learned in this figure on my 1/12 bike figure.
thanks everyone for the useful C&C. hopefully my next figure will look better.