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Title: 1/32 Saab 37 Viggen Build From Scratch
Description: AJ or JA are not dicided yet...


dremel - March 24, 2008 05:29 AM (GMT)
Another scratchbuilding project that I wish can be my personel collections…i'll take my sweet time to finish it though ;)

1/32 SAAB 37 VIGGEN

There so many versions JA.AJ,SH SK (two seater)…etc….but I’ll choose either JA or AJ. Its very similar shapes actually just a lillbit difference on tail fin antenna and under carriage equipment as well. Its quite a minor problem I think….btw I just curious about interior/cockpit ,I donno whether JA and AJ have the same cockpit.I have been downloaded a lot of pic’s from ARC Walkround but its does’t have an info on it. Hope all friends and forumers here can help me on that matter. Thanks in advance.


Anyway….I doesn’t want to waste time….I’d just get the basic shape done first…by the side I’ll keep searching an info that I needs.

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I’ve to located the wing to measure and to build up the main fuselage. I cut the delta wing because its will easier to works with polly putty
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And liquid plastic was applied….I wish that does will give an advantage when come on rescribing panel line. Another sanding process will needs. :)

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Thats all for the time be....will see you on next post....

Any info are most welcome....thanks and HAPPY MODELING :D




xamel1975 - March 24, 2008 05:35 AM (GMT)
Naza,

If you drop by Cineleisure this weekend, I can show you some of the info from Take-Off Magazine. It also features a cut-away view of the Viggen.

Then we can register to SFTPMS sama2 :lol: .

dremel - March 24, 2008 05:39 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (xamel1975 @ Mar 24 2008, 01:35 PM)
Naza,

If you drop by Cineleisure this weekend, I can show you some of the info from Take-Off Magazine. It also features a cut-away view of the Viggen.

Then we can register to SFTPMS sama2 :lol: .

Cantique bro, i'll drop by. actually last saturday i was there but nobody in....so registrations fees tu i pergi tengok movie :lol: :lol:

next week confirm register to our society ;) C U then

druid_99 - March 24, 2008 05:45 AM (GMT)
Yup, this Sunday I'll be there as well. We can meet for some teh tarik session lah.

Spartan44 - March 24, 2008 09:24 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (dremel @ Mar 24 2008, 01:29 PM)
Another scratchbuilding project that I wish can be my personel collections…i'll take my sweet time to finish it though ;)

1/32 SAAB 37 VIGGEN

There so many versions JA.AJ,SH SK (two seater)…etc….but I’ll choose either JA or AJ. Its very similar shapes actually just a lillbit difference on tail fin antenna and under carriage equipment as well. Its quite a minor problem I think….btw I just curious about interior/cockpit ,I donno whether JA and AJ have the same cockpit.I have been downloaded a lot of pic’s from ARC Walkround but its does’t have an info on it. Hope all friends and forumers here can help me on that matter. Thanks in advance.


Anyway….I doesn’t want to waste time….I’d just get the basic shape done first…by the side I’ll keep searching an info that I needs.

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I’ve to located the wing to measure and to build up the main fuselage. I cut the delta wing because its will easier to works with polly putty
.
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And liquid plastic was applied….I wish that does will give an advantage when come on rescribing panel line. Another sanding process will needs. :)

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Thats all for the time be....will see you on next post....

Any info are most welcome....thanks and HAPPY MODELING :D

Hello Dremel,

Wow, I'm impressed.

One thing though, there is a difference that most people overlook between the AJ-37 and JA-37. The JA-37 underwent a fuselage stretch (I think due to an engine modification) and a fuselage plug was added just behind the canard trailing edge. Additionally, the JA-37 can carry the dedicated belly mounted cannon pack.

It may be too late for you to add the fuselage plug judging by the progress that you have made so far,

cheers,

Spartan

Spartan44 - March 24, 2008 09:47 AM (GMT)
hello again,

Dremel, I dunno if you have been to here:

http://www.vectorsite.net/avvig.html

but there is some good info there as well as pics. To summarise the external differences between the JA/AJ:

The JA-37 had a 'partial' glass cockpit, 4 elevon actuators (instead of the normal 3), the 10cm(4") fin extension and 10cm (4") fuselage stretch as well as the KCL 30mm cannon pack

cheers,

Spartan,

dremel - March 24, 2008 11:50 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Spartan44 @ Mar 24 2008, 05:47 PM)
hello again,

Dremel, I dunno if you have been to here:

http://www.vectorsite.net/avvig.html

but there is some good info there as well as pics. To summarise the external differences between the JA/AJ:

The JA-37 had a 'partial' glass cockpit, 4 elevon actuators (instead of the normal 3), the 10cm(4") fin extension and 10cm (4") fuselage stretch as well as the KCL 30mm cannon pack

cheers,

Spartan,

Thanks for the links spartan....its will help me a lot bro ;)...I'll appreciate it

Now I can think about JA. Will go through one more time to night.

Just realize JA fuselarge longer 5inc from AJ....I donno wether can notice it in 1/32. A lot of things to dig out :( .

Spartan44 - March 25, 2008 07:30 AM (GMT)
Hello Dremel,

No problem bro.

I don't think most people will notice the fuselage stretch, but anyone who is familiar with the Viggen family would notice. I am glad the link was useful, good luck with project "Viggen", I hope to see more updates soon. The Viggy is one of my favourites, a very advanced aircraft in its day,

Spartan

dremel - March 25, 2008 07:50 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Spartan44 @ Mar 25 2008, 03:30 PM)
Hello Dremel,

No problem bro.

I don't think most people will notice the fuselage stretch, but anyone who is familiar with the Viggen family would notice. I am glad the link was useful, good luck with project "Viggen", I hope to see more updates soon. The Viggy is one of my favourites, a very advanced aircraft in its day,

Spartan

Hi spartan,

Can you pm me your email addres, i got a few photo that i took from Kuantan Airbase Hanger last year....close up photo .Maybe its might help on your Mig project.

Thanks.

dremel - March 26, 2008 06:15 PM (GMT)
Hi guys …have a good day….

Decision was made yesterday…..I think I’ll go for AJ, because I got neomega 1/48 cockpit resin set (borrow from gokart) that I can used exactly to make an AJ version. Out line drawing that I used is actually AJ as well, I’ve to do some works on the fuselage if I choose JA . It’s quite noticeable in 1/32 actually. I got an info World Air Power Journal. (borrow from gokart). To play save I’ll go for AJ . I think I got enough references for AJ.
And one more thing….JA usually painted in light grey (correct me if I’m wrong)….but I like to paint it in splinter camou…lagi cunnn

A bit of update on Viggen that I managed to touch during the break time. ….front part of the fuselage and nose. This lady I’m not in pressure to finish it…..just cherishing a bit when I miss her…

Here some progress pic’s…

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Thanks for viewing guys….see you…

C & C are welcome….

rtfoe - March 27, 2008 12:09 AM (GMT)
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And one more thing….JA usually painted in light grey (correct me if I’m wrong)….but I like to paint it in splinter camou…lagi cunnn

A bit of update on Viggen that I managed to touch during the break time. ….front part of the fuselage and nose. This lady I’m not in pressure to finish it…..just cherishing a bit when I miss her…


Wah!! Naza...a 1/32 Viggen and with splinter camo. Gonna be damn nice man.

So, that's how you do it. In the third photo you covered the fuselage in what material before the poly putty.

Richard.

druid_99 - March 27, 2008 12:37 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (rtfoe @ Mar 27 2008, 08:09 AM)
So, that's how you do it. In the third photo you covered the fuselage in what material before the poly putty.

I think it's liquid plastic, betul tak Naza?

dremel - March 27, 2008 01:57 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (rtfoe @ Mar 27 2008, 08:09 AM)
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And one more thing….JA usually painted in light grey (correct me if I’m wrong)….but I like to paint it in splinter camou…lagi cunnn

A bit of update on Viggen that I managed to touch during the break time. ….front part of the fuselage and nose. This lady I’m not in pressure to finish it…..just cherishing a bit when I miss her…


Wah!! Naza...a 1/32 Viggen and with splinter camo. Gonna be damn nice man.

So, that's how you do it. In the third photo you covered the fuselage in what material before the poly putty.

Richard.

liquid plastic....plastic mix with thinner... :lol:

razmanosaurex - March 27, 2008 07:09 AM (GMT)
pergh.....i hope one day i can buy 1 of ya collection
great work taiko

dremel - March 30, 2008 05:40 PM (GMT)
Good day guys….sorry guys, a bit tired to typelah….hope pic’s will help me though…. :rolleyes:

Simple progress….-FRAME to a ROUGH SHAPE and now a BASIC SHAPE…..

At this stage I need to tackle the entire curve and balancing as well….its took me about six hours to get it done…. <_<

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1ST stage primer ….comparison to the “bangkai pesawat” :P thats I kept for so long. ESCI 1/48. Object as a reference will help a lot on scratch building……

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And some area has to redo….its normal…..

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That all guys….will post some more soon….

P/s- Don’t get scared to scratch built something that you like….you’ll have fun…. spoil never mind throw it away and start a new one :lol: ….HAPPY MODELING…

Thanks for viewing….C&C are welcome…. :D





f-4dablemodels - March 31, 2008 01:13 AM (GMT)
Naza,

Excellent work as always!

Hope to see more stuff.

dremel - March 31, 2008 02:40 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (f-4dablemodels @ Mar 31 2008, 09:13 AM)
Naza,

Excellent work as always!

Hope to see more stuff.

Thanks Jason....i'll appteciate it, working on nose right now + some progress on Bofors as well...

seelianglim - March 31, 2008 02:51 AM (GMT)
You MUST have sore hands and fingers from all those sanding!!!!
sandijitis!!!

sllim


dremel - March 31, 2008 04:24 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (seelianglim @ Mar 31 2008, 10:51 AM)
You MUST have sore hands and fingers from all those sanding!!!!
sandijitis!!!

sllim

Nolah bro just practice and practice...I'm sure you can do better than that.... :D

razmanosaurex - April 2, 2008 05:33 AM (GMT)
naza skunk work
memang gempak la bro, cant wait to c u finish it

dremel - April 7, 2008 05:54 AM (GMT)
Here some a progress photo….

Attach nose to the fuselage

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1st stage sanding…
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Add this part….I don’t know what I should call that…

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Here the pictures for the 2nd and 3rd sanding process

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P/s-Always apply surfacer/primer every sanding stage done. I think it is regular operations right?

And at last sufacer had dried, I used a wet sanding technique to smoothen the surface.

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That’s all about it….I’ll up load the final product of this process on the next post….

Stay tune…. :D




dremel - April 7, 2008 05:57 AM (GMT)

Here….. shape that I think close enough to a picture. It is just a basic shape, and I will give some touch up and refine it during the next progress….

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Next post will be an air intake treatment….stay tune….

Loo CK - April 7, 2008 05:59 AM (GMT)
Bro,
very nice and disciplined progress.
Since you do a lot of puttying and reworking, any tips which is the best brand for you ?

dremel - April 7, 2008 06:06 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Loo CK @ Apr 7 2008, 01:59 PM)
Bro,
very nice and disciplined progress.
Since you do a lot of puttying and reworking, any tips which is the best brand for you ?

Brother Loo,

Thanks bro,

For this kind of saiz, I'll using real car putty. Its call polly putty , you can get at any hard ware store. Much cheaper and its an easy to work with.I've been always practice in 3 step sanding....

Hope thats will help.

xamel1975 - April 7, 2008 06:07 AM (GMT)
I'm speechless :o .

Make sure this one got featured in future Perajurit issue!

enghui - April 7, 2008 11:42 AM (GMT)
Thats really amazing how u make it come to life.
I really would like to know how do you make sure the nose cone is symetrical?

dremel - April 8, 2008 02:34 AM (GMT)
Harman,

These projects will not going to finish this tear, there’re a lot of thing to works with. If I’m still can work together wif them, why not ? I’ll glad to do that so…

Thanks bro ;)

Enghui,

It is not an impossible to achieve though, and I’m won’t be regret if its turn to unsuccessful project as well, it is a good subject to practice too. I just an occurred that’s can be done. Thanks bro

Frame method will help as a guide line. Frame will centralize and to make sure all the curving surface are symmetrical. Frame works base on centre line ,and side A and B are copy and paste. Hope that’s will help…

2 cents… :)


P/s- I did an update on this bird actually, re touch up a shape and air intake was built. But I’d managed to upload at my ARC thread only. There’re a lot of pictures to re upload here because I’ve forgotten to save the write up though. Please feel free to visit


W.I.P link-

http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index....howtopic=148910

enghui - April 8, 2008 04:08 AM (GMT)
Thanks Naza ,after your post I remembered what Henry ford said
"If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right. "

PS:on Bank Negara's directive the 2cents must now be rounded up to 5cents.thank you

PoohBear - April 8, 2008 04:30 AM (GMT)
Way to go Naza. You've caught the attention of some of the really big names over there. :)

Enghui, 2 cents is rounded down so it will be come 0cents? :lol:

enghui - April 10, 2008 01:40 AM (GMT)
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PoohBear Posted on Apr 8 2008, 12:30 PM
  Way to go Naza. You've caught the attention of some of the really big names over there.

Enghui, 2 cents is rounded down so it will be come 0cents? 


dam fail at economics again

f-4dablemodels - April 10, 2008 03:53 AM (GMT)
Congratulations, Naza! Your work is fantastic (eventhough it's not an F-4).

Judging from the feedback on ARC, it looks like you have becoming a "Modelling Legend".

Can change your name to Naza 'I am legend' Hashim already!


dremel - April 10, 2008 09:53 AM (GMT)
enghui- I'd been always think...plastic ,putty, snad paper.and etc....they don't have a brain....but we do...so we should be able to control them and creat what ever we want it to be...:lol:

Thanks for your support bro....and good luck on your f-4 too....


PoohBear- its nothing special about it actually....It just make me uncomfortable...
what happen if the project failed.... :(


f-4dablemodels- Thanks Jason....I'm nobody there....compare to them....I'm just want to see where I am....

In Modeling world you can put any nickname you want ...name is not so important though....people been always remember your creations instead of nick name :lol:


Thanks guys....HAPPY MODELING... :D

PoohBear - April 10, 2008 10:14 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (dremel @ Apr 10 2008, 05:53 PM)
PoohBear- its nothing special about it actually....It just make me uncomfortable...
what happen if the project failed.... :(


Bro,

Any project can fail due to any amount of reasons. The fact that you started this one means you have some idea of what you're getting yourself into. Judging by your progress here and in the other threads, you've got enough experience and confidence to tackle most any situation that would leave many modellers scratching their heads how to go about it.

You're doing just fine so think positive and keep up the good work!

cheers and happy modelling :)

dremel - April 10, 2008 03:03 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (PoohBear @ Apr 10 2008, 06:14 PM)
QUOTE (dremel @ Apr 10 2008, 05:53 PM)
PoohBear- its nothing special about it actually....It just make me uncomfortable...
what happen if the project failed.... :(


Bro,

Any project can fail due to any amount of reasons. The fact that you started this one means you have some idea of what you're getting yourself into. Judging by your progress here and in the other threads, you've got enough experience and confidence to tackle most any situation that would leave many modellers scratching their heads how to go about it.

You're doing just fine so think positive and keep up the good work!

cheers and happy modelling :)

Thanks so much for the kind of encouragement...i'll keep in mind bro...
To be honest i'd though about this project 1000 times already....I had been writing the formula how to make it done since early last year ....

Yes i'll try my best to get it done no matter how long its will take.....


Wish me bro....and i would like to say thanks to everybody who was supported me in this project....Especially Mr.Gokart/Mr.Harman who was willing to supplies me with a referencas that i needs, some of the stuff sometimes i could't effort to buy...


Thanks guys... :)

Bud Bilko - April 11, 2008 05:52 AM (GMT)
Mat Lobang's,

Great build. Sorry for not being around to watch this lately... I bet his right hand is bigger.... :lol: BTW, what scheme do you have in mind?

Sarge

dremel - April 11, 2008 06:25 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Bud Bilko @ Apr 11 2008, 01:52 PM)
Mat Lobang's,

Great build. Sorry for not being around to watch this lately... I bet his right hand is bigger.... :lol: BTW, what scheme do you have in mind?

Sarge

Slinter camoulah bro.....

musangpulut - April 11, 2008 06:29 AM (GMT)
great works as usual bro!!!

err..how about that 1/72 Hawk 200 conversion project??? still on??Im still waiting in patience..hehe

dremel - April 11, 2008 05:27 PM (GMT)
I'm so sory bro.....this year i could't make it....tp klu bro tak kisah yg sy cast pun ada lg....tp kena kerja keras skitlah....masterqq pun nak 1...

But i'll need to vax form the canopy first....nti i pm u k....

P/s- mthomas ....sabar....i'll send ...bagi i skit masa k ;)

musangpulut - April 12, 2008 03:18 AM (GMT)
cast pun buleh la..thanks bro!

dremel - April 14, 2008 05:57 PM (GMT)
Corrections for air intake…I’ll refine it later…

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Add a detail at fin leading edge extension/nozzle…


I’d try to figure out how to make an easy way to build this part…I’m blank than I just apply a lump of epoxy bondite and carve it slowly until I got the shape…

Here the progress…
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