First off ......guys .....my work e-mail does not seem to be going out to some domains..........so I will start this thread ......for updates and suggestions.....

The idea as follows

1) Direlect Buffalo ...........resting in the airfield........(I will try and source from Bud) .......

2) My Buffalo .........engine running and pilot about to get in .........

3) Tom - Buffalo pilot inside.........taxing out to runway.........(rudders and such need to be deflected)

4) Loo - Already on the runway on take off role........

Figures........we need at least 2 other figures with flight gear running behind my aircraft to their imaginery buffalos.........

Some air field stuff......like wheel chocks.....jerry cans oli drums and such.......if we can get the ready room done....it will be great.....and pilots streaming out from it...........(additional plan)

The ground ......I have a picture in my mind as wet and slushy......can get the aircrafts to blend in well........that way.........

Any suggestions..........anyone else want to be part of this Diorama........

Thanks guys
Mr B

B,

Thanks for laying it out for u.. maybe Loo can make a skatch for us.

I got 3 motors around for the engine, I will send it to you and Loo..

Mr B,
I seem to recall having the Eduard 48 scale RAF 1940 fighter crew set. Will see if its suitable.
As for the idea to motorise the kits, I still have a spare kit of the Buff. Let's coordinate on the marking next.


The sketch will come shortly and I will build on the idea you had.

Loo

ok guys

are we to go with a ready room

rgds
mr b

What does the ready room look like. Might be tempted to contribute time for it.

Richard.

Hi Richard

I for one welcome your brillent "shrinking ray" technology to our humble project

If I recollect the era (from some partial shots of the ready room pics given by Mr Loo ).....it will be a wooden structure on stilts I will try and upload the pic here.....and try to get a mate of mine to visualize my toughts on paper and upload it here........

Will try to do so by tommorow or so........hope to have you on board........

Rgds
to all
Mr B

Several references



February 08 issue of Scale Aviation Modeller features the buffalo

and the book

Buffaloes over Singapore

Nice photo Poopeh..

Look like we do need more figures. maybe some one can help recast the figures Loo have to multiply the numbers .. and we need members help painting them too.. any offer?

Rich... agree with mr B..I also welcome your brillent "shrinking ray" technology to our humble project...

gentlemen,
this is starting to take shape into quite an interesting project.

Poopeh,
as discussed with Thomas earlier, I have a copy of the 'Buffaloes over Singapore' and its text rich, with a comprehensive cover of the Buffaloes involvent from the start of the Malaya campaign till the end. Unfortunately not much visuals. We had a small problem of actually locating the side fuselage codes painted on the Sg Petani birds. The pilots and registration numbers are recorded so that is not a problem.
As this scene is becoming an action packed scene, its now important to get a timeline done accurately to see whether we need to light up the airfield.

As for the figures, I will confirm tonite once I go thru the Eduard and pilot figures in my stash.

Wunderbar.

Thanks guys, the raygun needs new batteries to go down to 48th scale. The last time helped out for an airport scene was to complete the unfinished tower for the '72nd scale airshow.
The ready room I presume isn't that big. What it was built from is what worries me. Were the walls flat or overlapping planks like my 'Local Fruit Shop'

Simple picture will suffice including timeline.

Richard.

And a splendid job of it too, considering the half baked condition it was in when you took over. :lol:

Richard is one very valuable asset to have on board any group modelling project. :D

Folks

My mate has given ....me a skecth ...of the so called ready room from my mind and some partial pics from Loo's pics

Any insights.......Richard can this be done in 1/48



Rgds
Mr B

I don't see why not. Won't be a problem. Can I have timeline please. Thanks.

Richard.

Thanks Richard

Timelines.......?....Hmmm :rolleyes:

Not too sure on that front.....Lets leave Mr Loo and Mr Tom to fix that........my buffalo is still in its box :)

Once again thanks for the contribution

rgds
mr b

Might be able to help out with some pics. I have a book entitled "The Odd Man Out" (I think). Its the story of a British officer shot for spying for the Japs. He was based at Alor Setar Airfield and there some pics and sketches of the place. Shall I pass it took to you Brian? I will be in Pg this weekend so can also pass it to Tom.

KT

Thanks for the additional reference......either way its fine with me.....I still need to pass back yr c.d's


Let me know

Rgds
Mr B

Rich..
Many thanks for your participation, we need to get every done and put in a Diorama by Merdeka, Pending tauke Loo to confirm the location and date.

Gokart,
Thanks for the offer, It will be batter to pass the book to Brian..

B and Loo,
I sent 5 motors to Brian today...

Thomas,
muchas gracias.

I am piecing the action in the Sg Petani base together and there may be something similar and relevant to our scene! I did manage to get some serial numbers of the Buffaloes in that base which saw some action but no large font marking reference unfortunately.
Let you guys know more soon as there is a lot to read up on and to cross refer....

For the time being I think we can limit the airfield to a 3' x 1.5' base to fit the scene.... subject to alterations.

motors arrived........

Will need to pass to Loo C.K

thks
rgds
mr b

Guys,

Based on Poopeh info, here are the possible serial of the 21 Sqn to choose from..and Loo also getting comfirmation of the serial from a Aussie guy. so take your pick..

GA-B Serial: AN180 C/n (279
GA-M Serial: AN 184 C/n: 283 - Thomas
GA-D Serial: AN 194 C/n: 293
GA-P Serial: W8163 C/n: 169

GA B think that will be obvious

:)

Tom can u pls action as we discussed?

t.q

rgds
mr b

I'll take GA-P Serial: W8163 C/n: 169
for obvious reasons too

Hello folks

I dun have a Buffalo, but i do have some 1/48 figures. These figures are from Tamiya's 1/48 Zero. It has got figures cladded in shorts. I suspect I could modify them with my limited scratcbuilding skills and readups from fellow modellers here in the forum .

sllim

Seeliang...the figures are most welcome. Great to have you with us. 48th scale figures are hard to come by.

Great to have you in as well Poops. You already have a Buffalo? MH and Toycity 1 Utama has them if you're looking for one.

Richard.

Ohh ... so it is acording to our callsign lah.. :D


GA-Brian
GA-Masterqq
GA-D Serial: AN 194 C/n: 293
GA-Poopeh

maybe
GA-Ckloo
GA-Rtfoe
but pooh one have taken..

Seelianglim and Poopeh

Welcome aboard.........more the better..........

Hope we can churn out a masterpiece........


thanks
rgds
mr b

Thanks Mr b,

Rtfoe, in fact i got into the Buffalo thing about 5 years ago. Got a fair number of buffalo in my collection about 6 of them including the pacific one. Well its a cute plane

wah poopeh..look like you are a bigger Baffalo fan..

seelianglim..
we were worried at one time to find the 1/48 figures and you came to the rescue, after your convert the Jap to Aussie (which was suppose the opposition force in this diorama anyway..:)).. may be we have to find a way to cast it to multiply the quantity.. let's see..

Haha...Don't mind me. I'm fine with what's left - GA-D AN194?

Maybe more serial nos. / codes will turn up.

That's what I said when I saw Loo's prop entry build. :lol:

Great stuff, guys. :)

Found this on ebay. Anyone keen?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Jaguar-1-48-WW2-Britis...1QQcmdZViewItem

I dont mind taking GA-D since D= David anyways hehe

GA-B An180 returned to Singapore form KL 23 Dec 41
GA-P W8163 as GA-B and to NEI in Feb 42, but captured Andir
GA-M Serial: AN 184 crashlanded KL 22 Dec 41
GA-D Serial: AN 194 captured by Jap North Malaya Dec 41

some other serial numbers of 21Sqn with unknown GA- codes,

W8169
W8170- shot down 22 dec 42
W8172 ( possible 21sqn )
W8206 shot down 21 Dec 41
W8212
W8214 caught fire 26 Sep 41
W8219 taxied into car Kluang 10 Jan 42
W8222 damaged beyond repair 8 Dec 41 Sg Petani
W8224 shot down 9 dec 41
W8227
W8232 forced landing 9 dec 41 and destroyed on ground
W8236 shot down 9 dec 41
AN170 shot down 19 jan 42
An171 collided W8202
AN181
AN183
AN186
AN201 shot down 14 Dec 41
AN212

It is not clear how any Buffaloes eventually flew in Sg Petani but it had an original flight roster of 15 Buffalo pilots.

Poopeh ---cute????? the buffalo is one of those aircraft either you love or hate.......so I guess cute qualifies.........:)

KT- tempted...........those figures look very nice indeed........but I already have purchased eating up my budget until May ......

Loo - Thanks for the headsup on the serials.........

Rgds
Mr B

Hi guys,

Got some pics of what I've done so far with the ready room. Basic frame work done. Roof base also done.



The frames are balsa glued with mixture of white glue and uhu. Haven't added the cross bracing yet. Haven't decided on lidi or balsa.



Close up of the planking scribed on the thick card.



Roof made with same material as flooring.




This weekend will do some more.

Richard

wow RT

Your shrinking ray is at full charge

lovely work

rgds
mr b

Ok..So far we have...

GA-Brian
GA-Masterqq
GA-David "PooPeh"
GA-Poohbear

Hopefully we can confirm the serial from Loo list later for..
GA-Ckloo
GA-Rtfoe

BTW, agree with B, lovely work Richard, your shrinking ray is working extremely well..

NIce. You know i was thinking that I need a new house to move into... :rolleyes:

Just found something else

http://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpot/port...a-2-buffalo.htm

The kit has 21 sq's marking which supposed to be at Sg Petani. Coded TD-V. I haven't read the article in detail though

The author quote the markings of V-TD AN185 as RAAF 453 Squadron in Sembawang airbase, Singapore.

Didn't the surviving birds of 21st Squadron get consolidated with 453 Sqdn?

yup....
TD is 453 Sqn
ND is 488 sqn
RD is 62 sqn in burma


And some history of the 21 sqn...
http://defence.gov.au/Raaf/organisation/un...sqn/history.htm

Recognize that boxing roo unit marking... and take a look at my avatar.. yes. we are working on decal which will be printed for every body.. we have a jpg file, we hope someone can help to resize and perfect it for decal printing...let us know any volunteer to help us on this.