I managed to take some snaps of our AFVs near Muzium Negara on Friday afternoon. Will upload them all shortly. Here's the 1st set of PT-91M for those of you interested in scratchbuilding for MGB08!

thanks for the pics bro.

Yup, thanks for sharing the pics.

Interesting to note the evenly spaced track link connectors painted white. Any idea what's the purpose for that?

We really love 'em smoke grenade launcher ye... :lol:

Thanks for the pictures Alpha7... it's scratchbuilding time... :lol:

My only regret is that I didn't get there earlier as the Astros and Huglands had left by the time I got there.

Jason, no idea what those are for. It didn't occur to me at that time to check if they were also on the other PT-91s. In fact, I can't even remember if they were silver or white. :o

Imran, those smoke grenades sure that a lot of time to make. Maybe you should consider casting yours and selling them.

Alpha 7 thanks for the photos. Great reference material! Theres also a small picture of the PT-91 in the Star, 30th August 2007 (Nation, Pg 14).

Anyone have any idea what kit is close enough to be used to convert to our PTs?

T-72, T-80, available from esci and dragon.

The PT-91M comes from the same lineage as the T-72. Do note that the T-80 on the other hand, is a descendant of the T-64 tank. So you should start off with a T-72 as your base kit.

There is/was(?) a resin kit from Modelkrak that will upgrade the Tamiya T-72 to a PT-91. This brings it a step closer to the PT-91M but from the photos, you can see some differences:

1) Tracks appear to be similar to the T-80 type
2) ERA blocks are in different shapes and layout
3) Fenders and side storage boxes

thanks for this adrian.. :D

aiseh.... my current MiniHobby T-72 is all ready for the paint factory.. else can convert to this tank.. well there's always MGB08 :D

so i believe this tank IS very fresh.. maybe just got off the ship they were transported in... evident by the very clean track.. + the "white" connector..

kuman

Indeed, The PT-91M has its roots in the T-72 not T-80.

Some difference between the baseline PT-91 and PT-91M

1. Different arrangement of ERA tiles
2. German tracks (from modeling POV, can use Leopard 2 tracks?)
3. Muzzle reference indicator (or whatever it is called) on the muzzle
4. Different stowage box arrangement + stowage basket
5. Different laser warning receiver
6. Different gunner and commander's sights (modelers' POV : can LeClerc's sights be used?)
7. Not fitted this year - Commander's M2HB 12.7mm HMG.
8. Other bumps and bulges on the turret.

Oh I also notice that the unditching beam is painted...

Hi Azlan, I don't think they are fresh. The soldier I spoke to said they were sending it back to Gemas camp where it's based. I think our army quite 'manja' this tank-lah. Can see in the last photo, the other 5 tanks are wrap under canvas. Takut panas ke? :D

Gemas???...my hometown.... :P

They are relatively fresh...haha. IIRC they only arrive earlier in August.

Gemas? Oh must be the combined arms unit ( can't remember the designation) camp there.

According the Wikipedia, it's under Rejimen 11 KAD, which recently relocated from Kota Belud to Gemas.

This thank got feature on the front page of last month TEMPUR ..
with all this reference pictures i'll be getting myself a T-72 tank to hopefully maybe have it ready by this year MGB08...

those camo would be a killer thing to do.. :)
and those ERA block also need to be scratchbuild i guess...

any more ref pictures guys?

kuman

Lan, U buat I support, must come out with a tank after all the birds I'm building now. I have a few more to share.

Cantek BV.... keep them coming and i'll keep "Right Click Saving " them.. :lol:

yea need a tank here. :)

kuman

ok to add to the resources...

i found this site in Polish language.. and use google to translate it... its a Recognition guide for our PT-91M

i'll print it out and use this as reference for the build.. :))

PT-91M Recognition guide

Youtube Excellent Walkaround

kuman

More references:

These photos are of the PT-91E, which is identical to the PT-91M and offered for export. Some good close-ups of the turret.

thank for the photo guys..

here is more resources posted by wuichong in the other thread...
just to make it 1 centralize place to do research on this tank.. :)

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http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=82735
http://www.tank-net.org/forums/lofiversion...php/t12654.html
http://www.answers.com/topic/malaysian-army
http://kr.blog.yahoo.com/shinecommerce/13492.html?p=1&t=3
http://www.militerium.com/story.php?id=26
http://www.malaysiandefence.com/?p=277
http://www.defencetalk.com/pictures/showgallery.php/cat/3866
http://www.defencetalk.com/pictures/showph...500/ppuser/8190
http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4104
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product.php?prodID=179
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY2uJ7IlChk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl1a4h6h7RQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDeCEF2QM8A&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vfoEtdIG50&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-5yYWlnbEg&feature=related

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http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/wor...urope/pt-91.htm
http://www.militaryfactory.com/armor/detail.asp?armor_id=182


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http://www.janes.com/news/defence/gallery/
http://www.armyrecognition.com/News/2007/A...ust_2007_UK.htm
http://www.klsreview.com/
http://forums.pakmilitary.net/index.php?showtopic=6870

just cut and paste to go to the site :D


and below is the Observation done by Alpha7 on what need to be modified, again i copied this over from the other thread.. :) hope its ok..

kuman

Any Body has the PT-91 Tank Transporter References Pictures?

it seems that the kit i have uses the 8 bolt type... 1 less conversion there.. :))



here is the kit i'm going to use..



kuman

Is this 'borrowed' from a Tamiya kit?

unfortunately i have no ide Loo

that is taken from the MHM T-72B as shown in the box-art.. maybe its a copy knowing MHM reputation :D

kuman

It is borrowed frm TMY, I have the ERA version, the era was borrowed frm dragon....

i also have the ERA version but that one all done building already (pending painting) so no chance of converting it.

but that ERA version, the ERA tiles is difference from our ATM tiles right?

kuman

yup, totaly diffrent, that one have a so-called bracket to hold it, bolted on with 2 bolt on both top and bottom

as u can see, the ERA tiles is totaly diffrent, must scratch build, and there's even anti-skid marks on top.

I will start some work tonight, since I've completed one hornet.

Go go go Vince!

I also got on MHM T72, maybe can join you for a fun GB!

That will be fun if some one to start this as a Merdeka Group Build 2008. Any hand?

*If yes, better start a new topc at 'In-Progress Section'

errr i have an old T72 Tamiya kit (1/35 scale) but the tracks 'koyak' brittle & broken..if anyone have a pair to spare then count me in... ^_^

that track is useless anyway... :)

can get the track from AFV Club.. either their Leopard Track or the Abrams Track.. they do sell just the track...
like the one i posted in here.. PT-1M MGB WIP

kuman

While on the way back from JPJ seremban, I saw a few truck loaded with our tanks. Managed to snap some pics using my phone..

Since someone posted shots of the Tiger factory, here's one I found on militaryphotos.net of the Pendekar factory. I wonder if the 7th photo from the top means that they have all 48 of our tanks made?

BTW,
what's happening to the armor GB for Merdeka? Are you guys still on for the modern tanks?? Another 6 months. Just nice

I'll be continuing my Pendekar build for the MGB09... just a little bit more to be done and all the additional items has arrived. :lol:

Maybe I should revive my pendekar project.

According to my military forum buddies, all 48 plus the support vehicles have all been delivered.

And rumour has it that actually we do not have 48 but probably twice that number. Anyway its just rumours....