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Title: Setting for a 1/35 diorama: a part of a destroyer
Description: scratchbuilt guns and homemade Photoetch


JBA - September 2, 2007 05:01 PM (GMT)
Hi guys,
I thought I would show you the plastic and metal parts for my new diorama.

This is actually a wreck of a Sokol class destroyer, with parts of the hull, 2 guns and one of the 4 funnels.
What could interest you here is that I had to do some home made photoetch so I could reproduce the pierced metal gun cradle.
Home made photoecth is hell to make, the bits of metal you see here must have been my tenth try :unsure:

You may notice that all the parts here are actually cut at 2 cm from the bottom, hey this stuff will end up under the water :D

The original Sokol destroyer was built at Yarrow for the Tsar in 1895. Then there was a good dozen of copies built in Russia. From what i check, a few of them where sunk during the Russo-japanese 1904/1905 war, while the surviving numbers where finally put to scrap around the early 1920's. 2 or 3 were eventually snatched by Finland after 1920 too.

Hope you are all well and that you will enjoy!
JB

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Blackheart - September 3, 2007 12:29 AM (GMT)
:o wooooo scratchbuilder..actually which part on the ship this thing located.. :D

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Argrillion - September 3, 2007 12:31 AM (GMT)
Nice work JBA. Looking forward to more of your updates here.

koowilliams - September 3, 2007 01:07 AM (GMT)
lots will be impressed by this... You have to show us how you made your own PE...

druid_99 - September 3, 2007 01:25 AM (GMT)
Another masterpiece in the making.... keep it up... ;)

PoohBear - September 3, 2007 01:39 AM (GMT)
Simply fantastic work. :)

Mind sharing the process for the home made PE and the materials needed? Might come in handy oneday... :D

Cheers and happy modelling :)



beachbum - September 3, 2007 01:41 AM (GMT)
Definitely another beauty in the making. Many thanks Jean-Bernard for sharing this one with us. The naval guys here will love this one as well. I was figuring how to scratch the drain hole decking on a U-boat conning tower at 1/35th for a little vignette so a way to make homemade PE is definitely of interest.

dremel - September 3, 2007 01:54 AM (GMT)
Superb and Smart.....can't wait to see the complete product ;)

ahhow - September 3, 2007 03:09 AM (GMT)
This is amazing, wish to see more update soon.

JBA - September 3, 2007 05:32 PM (GMT)
Thanks a lot for your great comments my friends, you're all quite heart warming :)

to do Homemade photoetch, you need a few things:
-first being fluent enough in some computer drawing software to be able to design the plate: mine looked like that user posted image
messing up with those softwares is a fair part of my day job, so no real problem there -but it could be for anybody who cannot do this!
-then you photocopy the drawing on some transparent plastic sheet -any photocopy shop can do that
-then you must buy some brass sheet that has been treated with photoresist material, I found mine at a French mail order specialized in trains, it's not that expensive really -i paid 8€ for a 25cmx12cm plate, and you can do quite a few tanks with that.
-then the trick is to expose the treated brass a few minutes to the sun, on each side with the transparent plastic sheet as a mask. (3mn if the sun hits hard!)
-then you must dip the plate in this liquid photographers use to reveal their pictures (not very expensive too). And eventually you get a "printed" plate with in black, the exact drawing you made.
-then you put this in a bath of FeCl3 -easy to find ain electronic shops as it's an acid that is used to create some printed circuits.

-after a few hours, you have what i hold in my hands above :)

So you see, the thing is to invest, because none of the ingredients are expensive, but you need quite a few stuff. but then after that.. did you notice all the nuts and bolts and stuff I have been cramming on my plate?!!

I could write pages and pages about this as what i have been writing is the theory, now i failed quite a number of times on stupid issues, and I will eventually post here the dos and don't about the whole thing, but not before a few months, when i write the article for that specific diorama :)


more litterature about the subject here


[edit] woops Blackheart, i forgot to answer your question! here's a Sokol
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the parts I have been modelling are the 5 meters after the first 5!

druid_99 - September 4, 2007 12:08 AM (GMT)
Wow!!! That's a very crowded PE plate you got there, and a very good example of using every space available to the max. Thanks for the brief how-to's as well. ;)

The Sokol looks interesting as well. I'll be following this thread closely. Don't want to miss anything on this interesting scratchbuilding.

beachbum - September 4, 2007 12:49 AM (GMT)
JB you've got most of us scratchbuilders here drooling already, myself included. :D Definitely looking forward to the article at HF as well. Merci for sharing this one with us my friend.

PoohBear - September 4, 2007 01:09 AM (GMT)
Thanks for sharing your knowledge. :D


dremel - September 4, 2007 02:58 AM (GMT)
Thanks JB ;)

RX-78-2 - September 4, 2007 05:20 AM (GMT)
wow!! nice scratch building!!
thanks for sharing!!

JBA - September 4, 2007 11:45 AM (GMT)
Thanks guys!
Druid_99 -when doing such a plate you have to crowd the space to the max: in fact you can reuse the acid until it's clogged -the less the acid bites into the metal, the cleaner it stays for a reuse -so you crowd the space!
JB

Loo CK - September 4, 2007 02:12 PM (GMT)
JB,
I am just eagerly waiting for your to pour on the magic!!.
Magnificient as usual even at this stage when its not finished. The summary on photoetching is really helpful. Now I am curious to try my hand on it...Bravo




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